1 00:00:08,780 --> 00:00:02,360 you're locked into Inception Radio 2 00:00:13,580 --> 00:00:08,790 Network superior Wisconsin aliens to 3 00:00:19,010 --> 00:00:13,590 ghosts demons hatred from shadow people 4 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:19,020 to the outlandish Heidi Hollis the 5 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:43,279 welcome welcome everybody to my awesome 6 00:00:48,319 --> 00:00:44,910 Friday evening you're listening to me 7 00:00:49,399 --> 00:00:48,329 Heidi house the Outlander welcome to the 8 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:49,409 show 9 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:53,370 oh my gosh I that's frickin Friday in a 10 00:00:59,689 --> 00:00:56,100 while I tell you they I was off for 11 00:01:01,100 --> 00:00:59,699 several months back and I am just having 12 00:01:10,130 --> 00:01:01,110 a blast 13 00:01:13,399 --> 00:01:10,140 so I'm feedback hey MJ are you able to 14 00:01:15,169 --> 00:01:13,409 mute her over there for a second alright 15 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:15,179 so I want to tell you guys about this 16 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:17,490 program so when it comes to the 17 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:20,490 outlandish oh my goodness you know that 18 00:01:25,309 --> 00:01:22,560 we cover so many different things I 19 00:01:27,740 --> 00:01:25,319 don't care if Bigfoot has its feet up on 20 00:01:31,029 --> 00:01:27,750 your table or if he's on your couch 21 00:01:32,809 --> 00:01:31,039 whatever it is two visions of Jesus 22 00:01:34,279 --> 00:01:32,819 personally I'm someone who has been 23 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:34,289 there seen that experienced it freaked 24 00:01:37,219 --> 00:01:35,759 out found some answers wrote about it 25 00:01:38,990 --> 00:01:37,229 got over it and now I'm hoping to help 26 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:39,000 others do the same thing and understand 27 00:01:44,569 --> 00:01:42,090 this crazy crazy world of ours if you 28 00:01:48,709 --> 00:01:44,579 dare please go to my main website which 29 00:01:50,179 --> 00:01:48,719 is Heidi Hollis dot-com and check it out 30 00:01:52,010 --> 00:01:50,189 you'll find a lot of stuff on there 31 00:01:54,170 --> 00:01:52,020 about me that may make you lose sleep or 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:54,180 laugh I I don't know I kind of cover a 33 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:56,490 lot of different angles so and I also 34 00:02:00,249 --> 00:01:57,810 want to tell you guys how you can hear 35 00:02:04,910 --> 00:02:00,259 this program because this program is 36 00:02:07,190 --> 00:02:04,920 awesome we have our own irn app so if 37 00:02:08,719 --> 00:02:07,200 you don't want to listen to us live like 38 00:02:09,949 --> 00:02:08,729 you are right now or maybe you're 39 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:09,959 listening to the app who knows most 40 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:12,209 people do seem to listen to the app go 41 00:02:17,330 --> 00:02:14,400 to your App Store and grab the iron an 42 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:17,340 app it is fantastic or you can also 43 00:02:22,460 --> 00:02:20,130 listen to this program alive just by 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:22,470 calling a phone number four zero one two 45 00:02:26,750 --> 00:02:25,410 eight three sixty seven hundred and my 46 00:02:28,220 --> 00:02:26,760 parents do that because they don't like 47 00:02:30,650 --> 00:02:28,230 to sit there and try to fiddle with you 48 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:30,660 know this high-tech stuff and they just 49 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:32,850 sit there and they listen on their phone 50 00:02:39,050 --> 00:02:35,370 line it's kind of cool and and I want to 51 00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:39,060 welcome you guys to I love love love to 52 00:02:45,380 --> 00:02:42,329 have you guys subscribe to inception 53 00:02:47,539 --> 00:02:45,390 radio network on youtube uh-huh 54 00:02:49,189 --> 00:02:47,549 that's right I said it and I would love 55 00:02:50,689 --> 00:02:49,199 for you also to feel free to call in to 56 00:02:52,610 --> 00:02:50,699 the show one eight eight eight nine one 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:52,620 nine two three five five or 58 00:02:57,559 --> 00:02:55,170 find us on skype and send your questions 59 00:03:00,619 --> 00:02:57,569 and comments to inception Radio Network 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:00,629 and I'm going to get on over into the 61 00:03:04,369 --> 00:03:02,730 chatroom here soon I did not get myself 62 00:03:08,270 --> 00:03:04,379 organized to get over there just yet but 63 00:03:10,819 --> 00:03:08,280 I will be there in a momento and yeah so 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:10,829 my goodness I I just I'm so happy to be 65 00:03:15,350 --> 00:03:13,170 here you guys have no idea and I wanted 66 00:03:17,539 --> 00:03:15,360 to get you guys some very very 67 00:03:19,130 --> 00:03:17,549 interesting information but I just don't 68 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:19,140 have it here hold on I'm gonna look up 69 00:03:25,460 --> 00:03:21,049 something here for you guys because I I 70 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:25,470 have a treat a very very cool treat 71 00:03:29,330 --> 00:03:27,090 don't mind me I have a little bronc oh 72 00:03:31,550 --> 00:03:29,340 you just just a little bronchitis who 73 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:31,560 gets a little bronchitis only me I'm 74 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:34,769 just lucky like that I guess so get this 75 00:03:42,849 --> 00:03:39,090 I have been fortunate enough to be 76 00:03:46,039 --> 00:03:42,859 working with some very very cool people 77 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:46,049 who are trying to bring attention to 78 00:03:50,509 --> 00:03:47,280 what I've been trying to bring attention 79 00:03:54,550 --> 00:03:50,519 to for eight years when it comes to 80 00:03:58,370 --> 00:03:54,560 those of us in you who have experienced 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:03:58,380 horrible terrible nightmares sleep 82 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:01,130 paralysis sleepwalking sleep deprivation 83 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:03,510 being terrified to go to sleep because 84 00:04:09,619 --> 00:04:05,370 of the things that are going on in your 85 00:04:12,250 --> 00:04:09,629 sleep and the cool thing about this 86 00:04:15,740 --> 00:04:12,260 bringing attention to this and 87 00:04:18,879 --> 00:04:15,750 documenting this and also getting the 88 00:04:21,140 --> 00:04:18,889 help to you free of charge of course and 89 00:04:22,730 --> 00:04:21,150 talking to you about this stuff and 90 00:04:24,740 --> 00:04:22,740 seeing what we can do to help remedy 91 00:04:26,779 --> 00:04:24,750 these things it doesn't matter if you 92 00:04:29,089 --> 00:04:26,789 think there's a paranormal element to it 93 00:04:30,980 --> 00:04:29,099 or not or if it's just something that's 94 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:30,990 going on I mean a lot of people that 95 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:32,639 experience what you know people call 96 00:04:35,750 --> 00:04:34,050 night terrors sleep paralysis or 97 00:04:37,430 --> 00:04:35,760 whatever other people don't remember 98 00:04:39,290 --> 00:04:37,440 things that are going on but those in 99 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:39,300 your life are laying in the bed going 100 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:42,410 dude stop here what's going on you know 101 00:04:48,379 --> 00:04:44,849 smack in the area and all that stuff so 102 00:04:51,409 --> 00:04:48,389 I want to be able to hear from you guys 103 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:51,419 that are experiencing these things yes 104 00:04:55,070 --> 00:04:53,280 if you're seeing shadow people yes if 105 00:04:57,230 --> 00:04:55,080 you're seeing hat man yes if you're 106 00:05:00,560 --> 00:04:57,240 having these night terrors nightmares 107 00:05:05,450 --> 00:05:00,570 whatever it is and feel free to write to 108 00:05:09,510 --> 00:05:05,460 me at dusts Outlander at gmail.com dee 109 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:09,520 Outlander at gmail.com and send over 110 00:05:13,770 --> 00:05:11,889 your your information and how I could 111 00:05:16,290 --> 00:05:13,780 get a hold of you and let's chat for 112 00:05:18,930 --> 00:05:16,300 real like just you know and you will 113 00:05:21,059 --> 00:05:18,940 talk and I'll put you in touch with 114 00:05:23,249 --> 00:05:21,069 these people as well I mean they're 115 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:23,259 really fantastic energetic and really 116 00:05:27,930 --> 00:05:25,210 positively trying to make a difference 117 00:05:29,610 --> 00:05:27,940 out there which is so needed and you 118 00:05:33,119 --> 00:05:29,620 know me I'm all about bringing attention 119 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:33,129 to these topics because a lot of people 120 00:05:38,339 --> 00:05:35,289 just don't take it as serious as it as 121 00:05:40,110 --> 00:05:38,349 they need to I mean I feel when people 122 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:40,120 are having these night terrors and these 123 00:05:44,159 --> 00:05:41,710 these horrible things going on in their 124 00:05:47,369 --> 00:05:44,169 sleep that they're battling an 125 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:47,379 individual war honestly and hello that's 126 00:05:51,869 --> 00:05:49,060 why I call my first book the secret war 127 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:51,879 I feel that people are struggling and 128 00:05:56,550 --> 00:05:53,530 they're they're they're really really 129 00:05:58,110 --> 00:05:56,560 trying to you know save their lives it's 130 00:05:59,459 --> 00:05:58,120 what it feels like honestly if you 131 00:06:01,409 --> 00:05:59,469 remember these things when they're when 132 00:06:02,670 --> 00:06:01,419 it's happening to you so let's make a 133 00:06:04,140 --> 00:06:02,680 difference and how do we make a 134 00:06:06,689 --> 00:06:04,150 difference is putting word out there 135 00:06:09,809 --> 00:06:06,699 putting a face to some of the phenomenon 136 00:06:11,999 --> 00:06:09,819 that's going on and you know put your 137 00:06:14,519 --> 00:06:12,009 name to it and let's do this you know 138 00:06:19,529 --> 00:06:14,529 what I'm saying so dust Outlander at 139 00:06:21,629 --> 00:06:19,539 gmail.com D as in David AAS Outlander at 140 00:06:23,159 --> 00:06:21,639 gmail.com so I would love to hear from 141 00:06:27,990 --> 00:06:23,169 you now 142 00:06:32,010 --> 00:06:28,000 now I want to invite my guests I will I 143 00:06:35,430 --> 00:06:32,020 will officially introduce her after the 144 00:06:36,510 --> 00:06:35,440 outlandish corner but first I want to 145 00:06:38,459 --> 00:06:36,520 get to that lineage quarter and I'm 146 00:06:41,610 --> 00:06:38,469 going to invite Mary Sutherland to join 147 00:06:42,749 --> 00:06:41,620 us my guest tonight and we're gonna go 148 00:06:44,369 --> 00:06:42,759 through that latest corner together 149 00:06:46,469 --> 00:06:44,379 because it's just so much fun 150 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:46,479 I love these emails that you guys and 151 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:49,360 trust me with to read over the airway so 152 00:06:53,430 --> 00:06:51,370 Mary you there you're listening you're 153 00:06:55,019 --> 00:06:53,440 listening you're ready to join me yep 154 00:07:02,459 --> 00:06:55,029 when I'm even trying to figure out this 155 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:02,469 microphone good okay here we go all 156 00:07:07,140 --> 00:07:05,110 right what is this okay I don't read 157 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:07,150 these ahead of time so I have no idea 158 00:07:11,159 --> 00:07:08,529 what's in these emails they're kind of 159 00:07:13,579 --> 00:07:11,169 fun alright so this one says it's dear 160 00:07:15,810 --> 00:07:13,589 Heidi that's me I'm writing to you 161 00:07:18,780 --> 00:07:15,820 regarding an interview that I just 162 00:07:22,110 --> 00:07:18,790 listened to on YouTube that you did 163 00:07:23,850 --> 00:07:22,120 with George Knapp Oh George Knapp okay 164 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:23,860 January 18th of this year 165 00:07:29,130 --> 00:07:26,650 what chilled me to the bone was a hat 166 00:07:31,010 --> 00:07:29,140 meant experience that you described my 167 00:07:34,020 --> 00:07:31,020 son has had the exact same experience 168 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:34,030 since nine years ago when he was six ooh 169 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:36,730 that sounds like it's repeating I would 170 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:39,700 love to tell you the experiences mainly 171 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:41,110 because I haven't been able to talk to 172 00:07:46,830 --> 00:07:44,050 anyone about it that didn't think I was 173 00:07:48,750 --> 00:07:46,840 totally nuts hey join the club um they 174 00:07:50,370 --> 00:07:48,760 didn't say that but I'm sure you know 175 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:50,380 the look oh I know that look girlfriend 176 00:07:54,690 --> 00:07:52,810 if you wish to hear the details and 177 00:07:57,020 --> 00:07:54,700 would like to contact me by phone is 178 00:07:59,820 --> 00:07:57,030 preferred oh we gotta get a phone number 179 00:08:02,070 --> 00:07:59,830 it's most efficient for conversation to 180 00:08:04,890 --> 00:08:02,080 me then email I live in Oregon any time 181 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:04,900 you can call will be fine if this is 182 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:07,090 somehow a weird request or you are now 183 00:08:11,550 --> 00:08:10,210 unable to talk I totally understand it 184 00:08:13,140 --> 00:08:11,560 would just be great to relates to 185 00:08:14,940 --> 00:08:13,150 someone who actually gets it thank you 186 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:14,950 for sharing your experiences sincerely 187 00:08:19,860 --> 00:08:17,530 Robert oh that was really sweet 188 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:19,870 Robert thank you for for you know it you 189 00:08:25,110 --> 00:08:22,150 know the way that these emails come 190 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:25,120 across I I mean I am so touched in and I 191 00:08:29,250 --> 00:08:27,490 mean I just I feel so lucky that you 192 00:08:32,730 --> 00:08:29,260 know people would take the time to write 193 00:08:34,469 --> 00:08:32,740 and so such sincerity I mean and you 194 00:08:36,450 --> 00:08:34,479 know what I have to say Mary about this 195 00:08:38,130 --> 00:08:36,460 this letter I know you've been in this 196 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:38,140 stuff for a long time too and it's like 197 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:40,510 a lot of times when people's kids 198 00:08:46,290 --> 00:08:42,880 experience things they don't have an 199 00:08:48,660 --> 00:08:46,300 open mind to it and wow what kudos to 200 00:08:50,730 --> 00:08:48,670 this Robert when she say too trusting 201 00:08:54,570 --> 00:08:50,740 what his his kid has been saying for 202 00:08:57,210 --> 00:08:54,580 nine years you know that is one of the 203 00:08:59,580 --> 00:08:57,220 biggest concerns of mine is the fact 204 00:09:02,490 --> 00:08:59,590 that first of all the child is 205 00:09:06,510 --> 00:09:02,500 victimized by whatever they don't care 206 00:09:09,510 --> 00:09:06,520 whether it's you know an alien or a 207 00:09:12,510 --> 00:09:09,520 shadow purse or shadow being but then 208 00:09:16,050 --> 00:09:12,520 when they go to the only people that can 209 00:09:18,090 --> 00:09:16,060 help them which is their parents the 210 00:09:20,730 --> 00:09:18,100 parents have been conditioned not to 211 00:09:23,580 --> 00:09:20,740 believe in those so thus they send them 212 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:23,590 right back to be victimized again so 213 00:09:29,130 --> 00:09:25,360 these poor little critters are just on 214 00:09:31,770 --> 00:09:29,140 their own you know it is terrifying 215 00:09:32,370 --> 00:09:31,780 because boredom there is no place for 216 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:32,380 them to 217 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:36,370 oh yeah that's that's awful and you know 218 00:09:41,550 --> 00:09:39,250 what another victim here is this Robert 219 00:09:44,610 --> 00:09:41,560 who feels like they have no one to turn 220 00:09:47,130 --> 00:09:44,620 to but you know to write somebody across 221 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:47,140 the country and to say gosh I hope you 222 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:48,640 call me because I would surely love to 223 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:50,290 vent this I mean I feel like people are 224 00:09:55,110 --> 00:09:53,110 being victimized all over you know down 225 00:09:57,510 --> 00:09:55,120 down the line because they have no one 226 00:09:59,280 --> 00:09:57,520 to talk to without the eye roll and you 227 00:10:01,560 --> 00:09:59,290 know people totally shutting down I mean 228 00:10:03,330 --> 00:10:01,570 it this is what I mean about we need to 229 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:03,340 start making a difference out there and 230 00:10:07,530 --> 00:10:05,770 speaking up and showing people that the 231 00:10:09,630 --> 00:10:07,540 paranormal is more normal it happens 232 00:10:14,010 --> 00:10:09,640 more often than people realize you know 233 00:10:16,620 --> 00:10:14,020 and so I just oh it's so it's 234 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:16,630 frustrating to see in here that this is 235 00:10:22,710 --> 00:10:18,310 going on with so many different people I 236 00:10:25,350 --> 00:10:22,720 don't know but it means there needs to 237 00:10:28,050 --> 00:10:25,360 be more people out there doing what 238 00:10:31,020 --> 00:10:28,060 you're doing what I'm doing yeah because 239 00:10:34,290 --> 00:10:31,030 I mean we can only handle so many and 240 00:10:38,550 --> 00:10:34,300 there it is becoming more and more 241 00:10:40,590 --> 00:10:38,560 frequent all the time and and people 242 00:10:43,710 --> 00:10:40,600 like you know there are going to help 243 00:10:47,460 --> 00:10:43,720 people you know such as that gentleman 244 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:47,470 that wrote in they have to learn I mean 245 00:10:51,750 --> 00:10:49,960 they just you know so many people just 246 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:51,760 pick up a book and read and think that 247 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:54,310 they can go out there and help well oh 248 00:10:59,670 --> 00:10:57,970 they need you know these people that are 249 00:11:02,460 --> 00:10:59,680 looking for help they need to come to 250 00:11:04,860 --> 00:11:02,470 people like us and have the experience 251 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:04,870 and has some sort of understanding of 252 00:11:10,950 --> 00:11:07,870 how to deal with it yeah so sometimes 253 00:11:13,050 --> 00:11:10,960 they can just get in deeper trouble then 254 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:13,060 if they would love to long subjects to 255 00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:17,770 Oh amen so very true I mean it's it's 256 00:11:22,170 --> 00:11:19,990 interesting to me remember way back in 257 00:11:23,460 --> 00:11:22,180 the day Mary when people didn't have 258 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:23,470 this thing called the Internet and you 259 00:11:28,380 --> 00:11:25,690 actually had to get out the door and 260 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:28,390 meet people physically to learn about 261 00:11:32,130 --> 00:11:30,490 these things and to get answers and yes 262 00:11:34,170 --> 00:11:32,140 you had to read not just one book but 263 00:11:35,940 --> 00:11:34,180 tons of books so you had a good 264 00:11:38,100 --> 00:11:35,950 perspective and and get out there and do 265 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:38,110 the the lake working and research I mean 266 00:11:43,680 --> 00:11:41,890 it and now it's like gosh I wonder what 267 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:43,690 Bigfoot's doing today Google what's 268 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:44,650 Bigfoot doing today 269 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:45,850 Bing there's the answer 270 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:49,690 oh I'm done yeah I remember Heidi wear 271 00:11:55,020 --> 00:11:52,510 that USB for you and me but you know 272 00:11:56,610 --> 00:11:55,030 even the books were censored so we 273 00:11:58,740 --> 00:11:56,620 didn't have the internet we tried to 274 00:12:00,540 --> 00:11:58,750 find books on it and it was there there 275 00:12:02,820 --> 00:12:00,550 was very very few books on it because 276 00:12:05,820 --> 00:12:02,830 there wasn't any self-publishing yeah 277 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:05,830 and the publishers you know they had a 278 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:08,290 list of what they would publish and what 279 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:10,210 they wouldn't then he had to go through 280 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:13,390 a library and they censored the books as 281 00:12:18,570 --> 00:12:16,930 well so I mean we have so when we were 282 00:12:21,270 --> 00:12:18,580 out in the field which we're still doing 283 00:12:24,510 --> 00:12:21,280 I mean we've had to actually go out in 284 00:12:26,580 --> 00:12:24,520 the field and experience it and then try 285 00:12:33,210 --> 00:12:26,590 to have and then figure it out with our 286 00:12:34,710 --> 00:12:33,220 own brainpower honestly and you know 287 00:12:36,780 --> 00:12:34,720 it's the only reason why I wrote my 288 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:36,790 first book cuz I could not find anything 289 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:38,560 on shadow people what I was dealing with 290 00:12:44,250 --> 00:12:41,290 I'm like this is not something this has 291 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:44,260 gotta be addressed I was going cuckoo 292 00:12:48,810 --> 00:12:47,110 you know I I just I don't know I was 293 00:12:50,460 --> 00:12:48,820 like well I guess since this is an out 294 00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:50,470 there I guess I better find a way to put 295 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:52,270 it out there it took me two months to 296 00:12:56,970 --> 00:12:54,730 write that first book for years to get 297 00:12:58,050 --> 00:12:56,980 it published because I had publishers 298 00:12:59,760 --> 00:12:58,060 that were like oh this is very 299 00:13:02,220 --> 00:12:59,770 interesting yeah yeah we're gonna 300 00:13:05,010 --> 00:13:02,230 publish it drop it oh yeah we'll publish 301 00:13:08,910 --> 00:13:05,020 it drop it I mean man I wrote the book 302 00:13:10,830 --> 00:13:08,920 in 97 it's a 2001 to get it out I was it 303 00:13:13,710 --> 00:13:10,840 was really dismaying so difficult and 304 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:13,720 then I had these other authors who had 305 00:13:18,210 --> 00:13:16,090 their own little publishing houses who 306 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:18,220 would criticize there's no such thing as 307 00:13:23,340 --> 00:13:20,890 that and then you know not gonna publish 308 00:13:25,710 --> 00:13:23,350 this I'm like oh my gosh it was it was 309 00:13:27,570 --> 00:13:25,720 really it was really tough so you've 310 00:13:29,850 --> 00:13:27,580 been in this longer than myself so but 311 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:29,860 and it's it's been I mean you've been 312 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:33,010 writing forever I love it so we got to 313 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:35,530 get into that though soon you know with 314 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:37,360 you know it was with the ship 315 00:13:43,290 --> 00:13:39,190 well you coined the term shadow person 316 00:13:46,430 --> 00:13:43,300 yeah and the hat man and with myself you 317 00:13:48,060 --> 00:13:46,440 know I I fell into shooting 318 00:13:51,930 --> 00:13:48,070 interdimensional or multi-dimensional 319 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:51,940 photos you know shooting what picked the 320 00:13:56,990 --> 00:13:54,850 pictures that I actually captured that 321 00:14:00,380 --> 00:13:57,000 people couldn't see 322 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:00,390 and you know and of course there was 323 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:03,060 Linda Godfrey you know oh yeah she 324 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:04,980 brought forth you know the gray Road 325 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:07,920 beast you know yes we were the pretty 326 00:14:19,690 --> 00:14:09,930 much the ground breakers of it all if I 327 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:19,700 remember correctly and all women yes 328 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:21,090 amen 329 00:14:26,590 --> 00:14:23,010 all right sure our men listeners will 330 00:14:29,270 --> 00:14:26,600 appreciate that but it's true I always 331 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:29,280 I'd get a kick out of going out into the 332 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:31,650 woods and watching the men run and us 333 00:14:36,380 --> 00:14:33,770 girls saying what's that what's that 334 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:36,390 taking her like checking out what's 335 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:37,410 behind those bushes 336 00:14:42,350 --> 00:14:40,710 you know we're curious I tell you you 337 00:14:45,310 --> 00:14:42,360 know guys just gonna start giving us 338 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:45,320 more credit because still I get a lot of 339 00:14:50,330 --> 00:14:48,810 people going what you you came up with 340 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:50,340 shadow people in the Hat man I'm like my 341 00:14:53,090 --> 00:14:50,850 goodness 342 00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:53,100 have you heard of it before yes well yes 343 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:54,900 there's a there's a lady behind it 344 00:14:59,120 --> 00:14:56,250 believe it or not it's like I don't 345 00:15:02,930 --> 00:14:59,130 understand how that happens I just don't 346 00:15:05,660 --> 00:15:02,940 but whatever what can you do but you 347 00:15:08,210 --> 00:15:05,670 know in my latest book of haunted 348 00:15:13,030 --> 00:15:08,220 Burlington Wisconsin it's up from that 349 00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:13,040 history press of haunted us a series i 350 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:16,710 we all I actually wrote about the hat 351 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:19,890 man in Burlington oh did you okay yeah 352 00:15:25,820 --> 00:15:22,290 and and I didn't I at that point of time 353 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:25,830 I didn't realize Ian woman that was just 354 00:15:30,860 --> 00:15:27,510 about the time I think that you came up 355 00:15:33,260 --> 00:15:30,870 with the term hat man oh and I was white 356 00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:33,270 and I had written about it you know 357 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:35,190 about this ghost that everybody was 358 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:38,730 seeing and how he was dressed and I got 359 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:40,050 a hold of your book and I was reading 360 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:42,330 your book of it there oh my god right 361 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:45,110 right he knows what this is 362 00:15:49,610 --> 00:15:47,730 did you know the Hat man so you know 363 00:15:52,730 --> 00:15:49,620 I've been referring to him every census 364 00:15:54,740 --> 00:15:52,740 they had man but he was a lot of people 365 00:15:58,430 --> 00:15:54,750 in Burlington that actually saw him 366 00:16:00,200 --> 00:15:58,440 basically you know it's it's an epic 367 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:00,210 tale there today you know just uh 368 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:03,570 there's a certain does there is uh Oh a 369 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:06,050 little shopping center in Burlington and 370 00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:09,330 it seems like he visits each and every 371 00:16:12,620 --> 00:16:10,800 one of these stories every day 372 00:16:17,630 --> 00:16:12,630 just kind of walk through the walls oh 373 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:17,640 yeah so and he wears a brown coat and a 374 00:16:22,370 --> 00:16:20,370 brown hat oh my goodness yeah he does 375 00:16:24,139 --> 00:16:22,380 change it up sometime so that's no 376 00:16:28,940 --> 00:16:24,149 that's interesting maybe I have to do a 377 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:28,950 road trip well hopefully I know you've 378 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:33,510 gotten so busy to just get a hold of me 379 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:35,250 and I'll go with ya definitely 380 00:16:38,540 --> 00:16:37,110 definitely what let me get on over to 381 00:16:41,690 --> 00:16:38,550 this next email before we run out of 382 00:16:43,699 --> 00:16:41,700 time in this segment okay so this next 383 00:16:45,889 --> 00:16:43,709 one it says dear Heidi I read your 384 00:16:47,150 --> 00:16:45,899 shadow people book mmm probably the 385 00:16:49,190 --> 00:16:47,160 secret word I'm thinking there they're 386 00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:49,200 talking about thank you for writing it I 387 00:16:53,569 --> 00:16:51,870 had one of those experiences he was just 388 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:53,579 like he described oh this must be the 389 00:16:57,019 --> 00:16:55,680 hat man book they're speaking of okay he 390 00:16:59,120 --> 00:16:57,029 was just like he described us stood at 391 00:17:02,180 --> 00:16:59,130 the foot of my bed and was driving nails 392 00:17:03,669 --> 00:17:02,190 into my feet oh that's horrible Heidi I 393 00:17:06,910 --> 00:17:03,679 am writing to see if you have any 394 00:17:09,710 --> 00:17:06,920 information about how to get alien 395 00:17:11,329 --> 00:17:09,720 interdimensional equipment removed from 396 00:17:14,449 --> 00:17:11,339 your body ah 397 00:17:16,429 --> 00:17:14,459 I discovered a hostile alien trying to 398 00:17:18,470 --> 00:17:16,439 possess me five years ago and I tried to 399 00:17:21,770 --> 00:17:18,480 throw him out of my aura for a couple of 400 00:17:24,620 --> 00:17:21,780 months he retaliated by installing 401 00:17:27,409 --> 00:17:24,630 invisible electrodes that go off 402 00:17:30,409 --> 00:17:27,419 constantly and they just feel exactly 403 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:30,419 like they would be there in physical 404 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:32,970 dimension okay they will sometimes make 405 00:17:38,570 --> 00:17:36,480 you keel over and hit the floor I try to 406 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:38,580 find a shaman but so far and no one 407 00:17:43,610 --> 00:17:40,290 seems to know about this a whole lot 408 00:17:46,370 --> 00:17:43,620 thanks and they left it anonymous whew 409 00:17:48,890 --> 00:17:46,380 this is a doozy Mary um gosh 410 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:48,900 interdimensional alien equipment you 411 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:50,970 know I have heard of people feeling like 412 00:17:56,030 --> 00:17:53,730 they were tagged and they feel like 413 00:17:57,770 --> 00:17:56,040 they're being tracked they know that it 414 00:18:00,200 --> 00:17:57,780 affects their aura and affects their 415 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:00,210 energy and they feel so out of sorts 416 00:18:06,169 --> 00:18:02,880 that they don't know what to do in 417 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:06,179 regards to that this is this is really 418 00:18:09,049 --> 00:18:07,710 interesting I'm trying to figure out you 419 00:18:10,370 --> 00:18:09,059 know what this person is saying I read 420 00:18:11,659 --> 00:18:10,380 your shadow people book well I don't 421 00:18:14,450 --> 00:18:11,669 have a book that's just called shadow 422 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:14,460 people and they're describing somebody 423 00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:15,690 standing at the foot of their bed 424 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:18,150 driving nails in their feet so that man 425 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:19,890 that shadow people is a big difference 426 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:23,130 so I wish I knew better on that but with 427 00:18:26,510 --> 00:18:24,690 this alien connection 428 00:18:30,170 --> 00:18:26,520 with shadow people is a lot more direct 429 00:18:33,140 --> 00:18:30,180 than the hat man so when it comes to 430 00:18:36,290 --> 00:18:33,150 this interdimensional stuff I'm all 431 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:36,300 about I mean I know I know a lot of 432 00:18:41,540 --> 00:18:38,310 people are not in this in this realm as 433 00:18:44,750 --> 00:18:41,550 I am but I'm a Christian and I believe 434 00:18:47,630 --> 00:18:44,760 that the power of God can take on most 435 00:18:49,730 --> 00:18:47,640 anything and though this may feel like a 436 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:49,740 physical thing but you know it's not 437 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:52,170 quite a physical thing that this is 438 00:18:56,270 --> 00:18:54,690 interdimensional I don't see that 439 00:18:59,480 --> 00:18:56,280 whatever it is that you believe to be 440 00:19:02,810 --> 00:18:59,490 real as far as the powers that be is to 441 00:19:05,390 --> 00:19:02,820 pray over it honestly and to have others 442 00:19:07,010 --> 00:19:05,400 you know sit with you and doing that you 443 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:07,020 don't have to go to a shaman to do it I 444 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:08,910 mean this is something that you know I 445 00:19:12,410 --> 00:19:10,410 think God gave us the gifts and the 446 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:12,420 ability to be able to remedy these 447 00:19:16,010 --> 00:19:14,370 things and we put we doubt ourselves we 448 00:19:18,290 --> 00:19:16,020 think we have to go and you know get 449 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:18,300 somebody else to it has more faith than 450 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:21,930 you do it own it you know put your put 451 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:23,610 your ethereal foot down and just be like 452 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:26,610 look I'm gonna take this on and you know 453 00:19:31,790 --> 00:19:28,890 my husband wife whatever I don't know 454 00:19:32,900 --> 00:19:31,800 this is anonymous you know help him help 455 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:32,910 you out with this 456 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:35,850 and honestly I truly truly believe that 457 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:38,010 we can rid ourselves of these types of 458 00:19:41,690 --> 00:19:39,930 things because it is a difficult thing 459 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:41,700 in a dimensional alien equipment I mean 460 00:19:46,610 --> 00:19:44,010 who the heck who specializes in that you 461 00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:46,620 know I think that God is all-knowing and 462 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:49,230 and I think that these are things that 463 00:19:55,550 --> 00:19:52,530 that can be done you know I I had a 464 00:19:58,250 --> 00:19:55,560 so-called horrific brain tumor at one 465 00:20:01,010 --> 00:19:58,260 point and I kid you not I kid you not 466 00:20:03,740 --> 00:20:01,020 this thing this thing was huge and was 467 00:20:05,330 --> 00:20:03,750 sticking outside of my neck and I'm like 468 00:20:06,890 --> 00:20:05,340 god this thing is still there I'd pray 469 00:20:09,490 --> 00:20:06,900 for it to go away it's still there and 470 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:09,500 then I changed my prayer and I'm like 471 00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:12,090 God make it be anything else but this 472 00:20:17,030 --> 00:20:14,550 crazy brain tumor and wouldn't you know 473 00:20:19,550 --> 00:20:17,040 what my next follow-up visit oh my gosh 474 00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:19,560 it's not a tumor hmm it's a long story 475 00:20:25,490 --> 00:20:23,580 so I believe in the power of prayer work 476 00:20:27,890 --> 00:20:25,500 it out Mary what would you suggest to 477 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:27,900 this person well I totally agree with 478 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:30,330 you and you know if they feel 479 00:20:34,490 --> 00:20:32,370 comfortable with the shaman then you 480 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:34,500 know by alright means you know use a 481 00:20:37,970 --> 00:20:36,930 shaman but you know for the Christians 482 00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:37,980 you know 483 00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:44,760 faith that you feel comfortable with but 484 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:47,940 you know something tells me just by the 485 00:20:54,380 --> 00:20:49,890 way this was all described that this is 486 00:20:57,380 --> 00:20:54,390 nano technology right you know and uh 487 00:21:01,070 --> 00:20:57,390 and that's a whole new ballgame yeah 488 00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:01,080 yeah and and I know that you know and I 489 00:21:05,690 --> 00:21:03,360 suggest that whoever this is that's 490 00:21:09,020 --> 00:21:05,700 writing this do a little bit of Google 491 00:21:10,940 --> 00:21:09,030 search on nano technology and how it's 492 00:21:14,090 --> 00:21:10,950 being even used by your own government 493 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:14,100 as well as aliens yes and you know what 494 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:15,510 I've heard too and people try to cut 495 00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:16,770 some of these things out they'll move 496 00:21:22,850 --> 00:21:20,460 yeah so it's like yeah it seems like 497 00:21:27,340 --> 00:21:22,860 they have a intelligence of their own 498 00:21:29,659 --> 00:21:27,350 right but they you know it is just a 499 00:21:32,030 --> 00:21:29,669 futuristic you know for us it's a 500 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:32,040 futuristic technology but that doesn't 501 00:21:36,590 --> 00:21:33,929 mean it's a futuristic technology for 502 00:21:39,049 --> 00:21:36,600 the aliens yep there you go all right 503 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:39,059 you're very right so I hope that that 504 00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:41,280 was helpful to you um so we got another 505 00:21:44,419 --> 00:21:43,110 quickie here we got throwing real quick 506 00:21:46,159 --> 00:21:44,429 it says dear Heidi I am currently 507 00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:46,169 reading your book the secret war 508 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:48,720 I am very well-versed on these shadow 509 00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:50,250 people as I've dealt with them my whole 510 00:21:54,830 --> 00:21:52,830 life only started to really understand 511 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:54,840 the event about ten or so years ago when 512 00:21:59,270 --> 00:21:57,059 I started meditating and really opened 513 00:22:01,549 --> 00:21:59,280 up my perspective your book is great to 514 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:01,559 say the least I live in Australia oh hi 515 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:04,169 there might we have to live down there I 516 00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:04,770 loved it 517 00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:07,950 I've seen oh yeah oh my gosh beautiful 518 00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:10,440 country nice people I've seen a dealt 519 00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,240 with shadow people and gray aliens I've 520 00:22:15,710 --> 00:22:14,400 seen one in my house and chased it out 521 00:22:18,830 --> 00:22:15,720 oh good on you mate 522 00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:18,840 and kept it and its mates out for the 523 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:21,360 rest of the night I worked as a career 524 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:23,910 for a man with Lyme disease a few years 525 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:27,210 back with a group of healers I am one 526 00:22:32,539 --> 00:22:29,850 too I am one too okay I'm a group of 527 00:22:34,610 --> 00:22:32,549 heal okay how many Euler just not as out 528 00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,620 there practicing but a shadow being was 529 00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:36,240 taken over the body of the person we 530 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:38,370 were looking after I even got to see 531 00:22:42,919 --> 00:22:40,410 UFOs up close and personal during that 532 00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:42,929 time worst part is all persons whom 533 00:22:48,620 --> 00:22:45,200 worked with this person had many things 534 00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:48,630 negatively happening to them anyways 535 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:51,179 it's a long story and too long waited 536 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:51,810 for here 537 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,570 I've seen oh I've seen a hundred and 538 00:22:59,420 --> 00:22:56,880 sixteen UFOs to date Wow 539 00:23:01,010 --> 00:22:59,430 I have the scars the implants blah blah 540 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:01,020 blah I don't give up the fight 541 00:23:05,540 --> 00:23:03,330 I don't deliberately go out and wage 542 00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:05,550 energetic battles with these beings 543 00:23:10,190 --> 00:23:08,100 anymore like calf says in your book they 544 00:23:12,290 --> 00:23:10,200 try to take you out lucky for me I have 545 00:23:14,750 --> 00:23:12,300 a great friend whom helped me out your 546 00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:14,760 book is an inspiration I'm used to being 547 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:17,310 looked upon as the fool or someone whom 548 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:19,050 is [\h__\h] when I share these 549 00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,780 experiences and sad to say have seen 550 00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:23,520 many friends and loved ones be pushed or 551 00:23:27,650 --> 00:23:25,440 rather pulled to the influences of the 552 00:23:29,060 --> 00:23:27,660 shadow people very sad I just want you 553 00:23:32,050 --> 00:23:29,070 to know there are people out there who 554 00:23:35,030 --> 00:23:32,060 are not bending regards Scottie wow 555 00:23:37,010 --> 00:23:35,040 that's really that's wow that's that's 556 00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:37,020 it's so touching when you hear from 557 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:38,760 somebody I mean that's opposite side of 558 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:41,010 the planet that you know something that 559 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:44,010 you you you worked on is helping I mean 560 00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:45,930 it's that's just so rewarding I'm glad 561 00:23:51,710 --> 00:23:48,960 to hear that you know you're keeping up 562 00:23:53,030 --> 00:23:51,720 the positive fight out there because so 563 00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:53,040 many people I think that they they 564 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:56,340 tremble in the face of seeing beings 565 00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:58,410 that they think are you know the Wizard 566 00:24:01,340 --> 00:23:59,760 of Oz or something and they they don't 567 00:24:03,050 --> 00:24:01,350 know how to how to take it on like oh 568 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:03,060 gosh this thing traveled a long distance 569 00:24:07,790 --> 00:24:05,310 so he must be a lot smarter than me he 570 00:24:10,970 --> 00:24:07,800 could do so much more to me and I'm just 571 00:24:12,290 --> 00:24:10,980 gonna cave just let it be and I hear 572 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:12,300 this all the time you know like you know 573 00:24:16,550 --> 00:24:14,700 oh you can't stop an abduction or you 574 00:24:18,350 --> 00:24:16,560 can't do this I'm like I don't know that 575 00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:18,360 word can't you know I think that there's 576 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:20,910 always a way to get around these things 577 00:24:25,790 --> 00:24:23,850 and you know don't doubt yourself 578 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:25,800 I think the second that a little element 579 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:28,770 of doubt comes within your mind there's 580 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:31,530 there's a way in there there you go you 581 00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,600 know it's like so I you're an 582 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:35,760 inspiration Scotty I I mean honestly 583 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:37,890 because it's I'm just one person that 584 00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:40,710 just decided to put their their name out 585 00:24:46,910 --> 00:24:42,990 there and do this even though my dad 586 00:24:49,250 --> 00:24:46,920 told me to use a pen name because I told 587 00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:49,260 my dad you didn't have any sons dad so 588 00:24:53,810 --> 00:24:51,510 I'm gonna abuse your last name to its 589 00:25:00,140 --> 00:24:53,820 fullest and so I am and it sounds so 590 00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:00,150 good with the name Heidi so thanks so so 591 00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:01,950 you know and keep putting your keep keep 592 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:03,720 the fight up out over there or down 593 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,650 under and 594 00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:06,480 you know we'll do our end over here too 595 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:09,419 so what's your thoughts on it Mary there 596 00:25:13,340 --> 00:25:11,610 was a there was an article I was reading 597 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:13,350 actually they got something on YouTube 598 00:25:22,340 --> 00:25:16,250 as well you ever heard of the black goo 599 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:22,350 the black goo black goo G oh no I had 600 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:25,049 neither and anyhow if you know like us 601 00:25:29,330 --> 00:25:26,970 you know with if we're not out there in 602 00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:29,340 the field we're researching anyhow I 603 00:25:38,299 --> 00:25:33,750 came across this YouTube on this black 604 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:38,309 blue or goo and they favors this man he 605 00:25:44,539 --> 00:25:41,610 was talking about how these areas are 606 00:25:51,159 --> 00:25:44,549 trying to you know take over the earth 607 00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:51,169 by by using up but how will I say it 608 00:25:57,980 --> 00:25:54,390 they're dropping this black goo and it 609 00:26:01,580 --> 00:25:57,990 gets into the earth somehow and it it 610 00:26:03,889 --> 00:26:01,590 shuts down the consciousness and our 611 00:26:06,769 --> 00:26:03,899 inner connection with Mother Earth and 612 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:06,779 replaces the our consciousness our 613 00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:09,090 original consciousness with the alien 614 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:12,350 consciousness which is a very negative 615 00:26:20,299 --> 00:26:15,929 consciousness yeah and anyhow somehow 616 00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:20,309 this has been a contributing factor with 617 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:23,940 all the negativity that we have been 618 00:26:32,210 --> 00:26:27,210 going through you know for it maybe even 619 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:32,220 2000 years but if anyhow it kind of made 620 00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:34,289 sense and of course they said that the 621 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:37,470 only way to really fight it is by what 622 00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:40,130 you said you know changing your attitude 623 00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:44,130 start living in a higher vibration but 624 00:26:48,980 --> 00:26:46,710 your mind to God or you know the source 625 00:26:51,289 --> 00:26:48,990 you know that you feel comfortable with 626 00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:51,299 as long as it's of a higher vibration 627 00:26:58,279 --> 00:26:54,840 and you can you can actually break free 628 00:27:02,029 --> 00:26:58,289 from this but because most people don't 629 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:02,039 know about this replacement of calm a uh 630 00:27:05,620 --> 00:27:04,110 human consciousness or mother earth 631 00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:05,630 consciousness with this alien 632 00:27:10,279 --> 00:27:08,580 consciousness they are they don't know 633 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:10,289 how to fight it you know you have to 634 00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:11,760 know there's an enemy out there before 635 00:27:18,529 --> 00:27:16,799 you can fight it and so anyhow it again 636 00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,539 go to you too 637 00:27:27,139 --> 00:27:20,399 and I think all you'd have to really do 638 00:27:29,689 --> 00:27:27,149 is type in black goo oh yeah that's 639 00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:29,699 really interesting yeah but yeah just 640 00:27:34,219 --> 00:27:31,919 try to make sense I don't know about the 641 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:34,229 black goo or anything but it does make 642 00:27:40,749 --> 00:27:37,369 sense that there's a there's a negative 643 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:40,759 consciousness of sorts taking over our 644 00:27:47,810 --> 00:27:44,089 minds you know I don't believe that 645 00:27:49,939 --> 00:27:47,820 people are as hateful you know as you 646 00:27:52,879 --> 00:27:49,949 know that they were meant to be I think 647 00:27:55,099 --> 00:27:52,889 that you know what you know they're they 648 00:27:57,829 --> 00:27:55,109 they were made up from God you know so I 649 00:28:00,319 --> 00:27:57,839 mean they should caring that within them 650 00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:00,329 that consciousness of love you know it's 651 00:28:04,309 --> 00:28:02,940 very true yeah somebody gonna get 652 00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:04,319 something simple 'when seing the 653 00:28:08,299 --> 00:28:06,089 consciousness yeah we got a good turn 654 00:28:09,709 --> 00:28:08,309 our first break here but you know i want 655 00:28:11,869 --> 00:28:09,719 to thank you guys for writing in and 656 00:28:13,249 --> 00:28:11,879 again anybody who has any experiences 657 00:28:14,749 --> 00:28:13,259 with anything out of the ordinary and 658 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:14,759 especially right now i'm looking for 659 00:28:19,069 --> 00:28:16,409 those that are dealing with sleep 660 00:28:21,349 --> 00:28:19,079 paralysis night terror type episodes 661 00:28:23,629 --> 00:28:21,359 feel free to write me at dusk Outlander 662 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:23,639 at gmail.com and you're listening to me 663 00:28:26,509 --> 00:28:25,049 how do you house the Outlander an 664 00:28:29,509 --> 00:28:26,519 inception radio network and we'll be 665 00:28:30,709 --> 00:28:29,519 right back welcome back everybody you're 666 00:28:32,930 --> 00:28:30,719 listening to me Heidi Hollis 667 00:28:35,389 --> 00:28:32,940 the Outlander remembering always if it's 668 00:28:37,789 --> 00:28:35,399 weird we're here and so are you so stop 669 00:28:39,979 --> 00:28:37,799 staring at me we're giving you advice 670 00:28:41,209 --> 00:28:39,989 and insight on Atlanta's topics and the 671 00:28:43,579 --> 00:28:41,219 phone lines are always open at one 672 00:28:47,059 --> 00:28:43,589 eighty eighty eight nine one nine twenty 673 00:28:48,979 --> 00:28:47,069 355 and as we were speaking earlier with 674 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:48,989 my awesome guests for the evening it's 675 00:28:53,809 --> 00:28:50,849 Mary Sutherland I'm gonna give her 676 00:28:56,299 --> 00:28:53,819 official introduction mary has recently 677 00:28:58,969 --> 00:28:56,309 retired from being the owner manager or 678 00:29:01,369 --> 00:28:58,979 Burlington Wisconsin sci-fi cafe which 679 00:29:04,069 --> 00:29:01,379 was an awesome place to devote more time 680 00:29:06,739 --> 00:29:04,079 to her research her most recent book is 681 00:29:08,269 --> 00:29:06,749 the red-haired Giants when she's not 682 00:29:10,729 --> 00:29:08,279 working on a book she is passionately 683 00:29:13,129 --> 00:29:10,739 researching America's prehistory at 684 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:13,139 places like Rock Lake and leading her 685 00:29:18,139 --> 00:29:15,690 famous haunted woods tours which I have 686 00:29:19,999 --> 00:29:18,149 still got to go on and everybody check 687 00:29:22,129 --> 00:29:20,009 out her awesome website she's got a huge 688 00:29:25,339 --> 00:29:22,139 website which is Burlington news a 689 00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:25,349 dotnet everybody round of applause for 690 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:28,440 my friend and you will love her too Mary 691 00:29:34,930 --> 00:29:33,100 my god Mary there's a red carpet it's 692 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:34,940 rolling girlfriend well thank you 693 00:29:41,890 --> 00:29:38,570 everybody thank you 694 00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:41,900 of course oh my goodness you know what I 695 00:29:45,580 --> 00:29:44,000 have always enjoyed any kind of 696 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:45,590 conversation I've ever had with you 697 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:47,450 you always give off good vibes good 698 00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:50,930 advice and you know your cafe rocked I 699 00:29:54,340 --> 00:29:52,910 mean let's just be honest I mean but 700 00:29:56,740 --> 00:29:54,350 it's you're telling me during the break 701 00:29:58,420 --> 00:29:56,750 that it was starting to get to be a bit 702 00:30:00,910 --> 00:29:58,430 of a burden everything you were doing a 703 00:30:03,010 --> 00:30:00,920 lot at once so you just kind of took a 704 00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:03,020 break from that a little bit huh well 705 00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:06,080 yeah it was seven days a week and we did 706 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:10,070 it for ten years and you know my heart 707 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:12,170 and soul is in two you know field 708 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:14,930 research and writing so and then of 709 00:30:19,030 --> 00:30:16,850 course with the radio station too and 710 00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:19,040 has just got to the point where you know 711 00:30:24,790 --> 00:30:21,440 I just couldn't I had to make a choice 712 00:30:26,590 --> 00:30:24,800 and besides that you know you know I 713 00:30:29,530 --> 00:30:26,600 needed to start spending some time on 714 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:29,540 myself and you know and getting to Reno 715 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:34,010 my husband you know that guy you 716 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:37,490 remember Brad I do I do how's he doing I 717 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:40,460 used to him really good he had since you 718 00:30:45,130 --> 00:30:42,710 met since last time you seen him he's 719 00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:45,140 went through two heart attacks and above 720 00:30:52,780 --> 00:30:49,520 the cancer and he's got yeah he's 721 00:30:55,090 --> 00:30:52,790 totally healthy now and you know he's 722 00:30:57,910 --> 00:30:55,100 like you and me you know it positive 723 00:31:00,880 --> 00:30:57,920 thinking you know we we both know that 724 00:31:04,810 --> 00:31:00,890 you know it's all about how you deal 725 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:04,820 with things on a positive note and Brad 726 00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:07,730 beat the cancer and he hearts totally 727 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:10,910 fine and and he's doing great 728 00:31:16,510 --> 00:31:14,330 you know he's I mean honestly I mean I 729 00:31:18,370 --> 00:31:16,520 remember him he posting about him 730 00:31:19,540 --> 00:31:18,380 pulling through that and my gosh you 731 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:19,550 guys went through a lot had where's a 732 00:31:27,250 --> 00:31:23,330 fire and oh so much so much or was it 733 00:31:29,170 --> 00:31:27,260 yeah was he well knows well I felt sorry 734 00:31:30,790 --> 00:31:29,180 for this one kid you know he didn't have 735 00:31:33,490 --> 00:31:30,800 a job and somebody says watch give him a 736 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:33,500 break so I did and he ended up you know 737 00:31:37,870 --> 00:31:36,170 he put together little gangs and one 738 00:31:39,940 --> 00:31:37,880 night when I was all doing a tour they 739 00:31:41,890 --> 00:31:39,950 managed to break into the cafe as a 740 00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:41,900 little bunch of things but it broke and 741 00:31:44,130 --> 00:31:42,400 that's 742 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:44,140 was I know it was something that really 743 00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:47,050 took down your business Mike ah when it 744 00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:49,630 rains it pours you know luckily I had 745 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:52,390 insurance thank God way to go my 746 00:31:56,970 --> 00:31:54,730 goodness hello otherwise that it could 747 00:31:59,460 --> 00:31:56,980 have done a lot of damage but I had the 748 00:32:06,390 --> 00:31:59,470 insurance so you know so everything was 749 00:32:09,060 --> 00:32:06,400 fine with it you know but actually Heidi 750 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:09,070 there's an really interesting story that 751 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:12,370 goes with that that robbery and a 752 00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:14,650 Bigfoot oh really 753 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:16,660 want to hear it I want to hear this 754 00:32:19,230 --> 00:32:18,370 Bigfoot robbed your place or something 755 00:32:21,980 --> 00:32:19,240 that'd be cool 756 00:32:25,050 --> 00:32:21,990 well actually they saved the store 757 00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:25,060 because what had happened was I felt 758 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:26,950 like I said I'd hired this kid and I 759 00:32:31,230 --> 00:32:28,570 always let his friends come in and visit 760 00:32:33,270 --> 00:32:31,240 with him and stuff like that and then I 761 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:33,280 was I kind of had him under my wing and 762 00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:37,090 I I that night I had to do toriel in the 763 00:32:42,330 --> 00:32:40,630 haunted woods and I told him that he 764 00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:42,340 needed to come and help me you know work 765 00:32:47,730 --> 00:32:45,070 is it one of the guides so he went with 766 00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:47,740 me and I noticed that he was on his cell 767 00:32:52,890 --> 00:32:49,240 phone all the time 768 00:32:54,990 --> 00:32:52,900 and at one point in time he went way 769 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:55,000 kind of deep into the woods you know to 770 00:32:59,820 --> 00:32:57,490 make this call and I thought well that's 771 00:33:01,650 --> 00:32:59,830 kind of unusual but I didn't think too 772 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:01,660 much of it you know just kind of ticked 773 00:33:06,510 --> 00:33:03,910 me off a little bit you know but that 774 00:33:09,690 --> 00:33:06,520 was bought yeah but then right after he 775 00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:09,700 made that telephone call all of a sudden 776 00:33:16,790 --> 00:33:12,190 we started getting little pebbles thrown 777 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:16,800 at us Oh pebbles turned into larger 778 00:33:22,770 --> 00:33:20,110 stones and finally we started getting a 779 00:33:24,690 --> 00:33:22,780 hit with stones about the size of a oh I 780 00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:24,700 don't know about the size of a football 781 00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:28,000 or a small basketball and we just were 782 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:29,350 hitting us in all different directions 783 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:33,250 and well I thought well maybe if I went 784 00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:35,410 because we had Bigfoot activity up there 785 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:37,150 so I knew that they wasn't going to hit 786 00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:39,490 us or hurt us so I mean they just want 787 00:33:44,790 --> 00:33:42,190 us to move to another area so we went to 788 00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:44,800 a another little area but they kept it 789 00:33:50,670 --> 00:33:48,790 up and you know went by the that time 790 00:33:52,650 --> 00:33:50,680 the rocks were really coming fast and 791 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:52,660 hard and I was afraid that somebody was 792 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:54,850 going to get hit so I had to call off 793 00:33:58,290 --> 00:33:56,290 the tour 794 00:34:01,560 --> 00:33:58,300 get everybody out of there for safety 795 00:34:03,570 --> 00:34:01,570 and they threw those stones all the way 796 00:34:06,690 --> 00:34:03,580 from way back there where the sacred 797 00:34:08,610 --> 00:34:06,700 site area is they threw those stones 798 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:08,620 until we actually got to the parking lot 799 00:34:13,530 --> 00:34:11,290 every time we stopped more stones would 800 00:34:15,570 --> 00:34:13,540 start coming at us oh my god like they 801 00:34:19,139 --> 00:34:15,580 were you know hurting us out of the 802 00:34:20,730 --> 00:34:19,149 woods well what had happened was now we 803 00:34:22,139 --> 00:34:20,740 had always gotten along with the Bigfoot 804 00:34:24,090 --> 00:34:22,149 up there in that area 805 00:34:25,230 --> 00:34:24,100 you know never had problems with them 806 00:34:27,330 --> 00:34:25,240 and I've known that they've been up in 807 00:34:30,690 --> 00:34:27,340 that area for years yeah but what 808 00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:30,700 happened was there was some Bigfoot back 809 00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:33,040 there in those woods and overheard his 810 00:34:40,050 --> 00:34:36,399 conversation this kid's conversation 811 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:40,060 what the plan was to go out in the woods 812 00:34:45,419 --> 00:34:42,970 with me and once we got back up into the 813 00:34:48,060 --> 00:34:45,429 sacred circle he was he called his 814 00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:48,070 France a tome it was okay that it the 815 00:34:52,409 --> 00:34:51,100 you know it was safe to break in and he 816 00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:52,419 was telling them the things that he 817 00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:54,190 wanted them to grab while they were 818 00:35:01,860 --> 00:34:57,520 there and so the Bigfoot actually heard 819 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:01,870 this and realized that you know the cafe 820 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:03,090 was being robbed 821 00:35:11,490 --> 00:35:07,090 yeah so they got together and actually 822 00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:11,500 herded us out and so we can so when he 823 00:35:16,050 --> 00:35:13,660 the kid got to the parking lot he called 824 00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:16,060 these guys again to tell them to get out 825 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:19,720 of there and luckily you know the 826 00:35:24,420 --> 00:35:22,810 Bigfoot got us out of there in time you 827 00:35:26,610 --> 00:35:24,430 know maybe there is about seven thousand 828 00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:26,620 dollars worth of merchandise stolen but 829 00:35:31,890 --> 00:35:28,900 I had a lot of glass counters there in 830 00:35:33,180 --> 00:35:31,900 class shows and things yeah and you know 831 00:35:35,340 --> 00:35:33,190 they could have done a lot of 832 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:35,350 destruction you know smashing my glass 833 00:35:42,090 --> 00:35:37,810 cases to get into jewelry and things 834 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:42,100 like that so the Bigfoot actually did us 835 00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:44,710 a favor and saved my saved our cafe 836 00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:47,710 session that I was yeah I was amazing 837 00:35:52,860 --> 00:35:50,080 but I was so freaked over it well we had 838 00:35:55,740 --> 00:35:52,870 this one girl she was so Schiphol I was 839 00:35:57,540 --> 00:35:55,750 scared too you know when they cuz I mean 840 00:36:00,690 --> 00:35:57,550 when you got big rocks coming out of 841 00:36:02,610 --> 00:36:00,700 heart you know you know oh steadies the 842 00:36:04,770 --> 00:36:02,620 speed at you you know then they're 843 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:04,780 whizzing by your head you know I mean if 844 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:06,370 those rocks would hit anybody could have 845 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:08,770 popped their head like watermelon so you 846 00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:10,090 know I'm really 847 00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:11,590 nervous over this I'm trying to get 848 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:14,140 everybody off to safety but then the 849 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:16,450 next day or the next time I went out 850 00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:18,730 there with Brad and another groom I made 851 00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:21,040 Brad go the store and buy hard hats for 852 00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:26,800 everybody party favor ones either but 853 00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:29,680 the real hard that's because I'm 854 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:32,260 thinking because I'm thinking that they 855 00:36:38,790 --> 00:36:35,290 did this you know to save the store you 856 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:38,800 know but again I could be wrong so I 857 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:40,330 thought well you know there is no way 858 00:36:45,150 --> 00:36:42,130 I'm gonna take anybody out there you 859 00:36:46,980 --> 00:36:45,160 know unless they got hard hats and it 860 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:46,990 was really comical for the first couple 861 00:36:49,950 --> 00:36:48,730 tours afterwards so you know I took 862 00:36:51,770 --> 00:36:49,960 pictures and you can see these people 863 00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:51,780 with heart health 864 00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:54,220 the Big Foot never did it again 865 00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,660 you know they went back to their normal 866 00:36:59,400 --> 00:36:57,760 thing of throwing little pebbles around 867 00:37:01,350 --> 00:36:59,410 us you know just let us know that they 868 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:01,360 were there even though we're talking on 869 00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:04,290 the tree or making some you know noises 870 00:37:09,540 --> 00:37:07,360 you know it's so funny because for those 871 00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:09,550 who do not know but this is this is a 872 00:37:14,610 --> 00:37:12,340 Bigfoot thing they will throw rocks and 873 00:37:17,130 --> 00:37:14,620 I'll show real quick what happened to me 874 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:17,140 with a Bigfoot I mean I was at this UFO 875 00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:18,970 conference in the Ozarks and I was there 876 00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:22,110 to speak on shadow people stuff and 877 00:37:27,450 --> 00:37:24,910 there is this lady who had a farm not 878 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:27,460 too far away and and she's like oh I've 879 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:29,050 got a lot of Bigfoot on my property and 880 00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:31,210 then they have babies and you know I'm 881 00:37:35,130 --> 00:37:33,190 like sure okay yeah you know you hear 882 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:35,140 these stores like sure she said you know 883 00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:36,250 so she's like you want to come out and 884 00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:38,740 see and I have a lot of orbs and I mean 885 00:37:42,810 --> 00:37:40,510 so we go out there's really nice lady 886 00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:42,820 and and oh my goodness I've never seen 887 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:44,020 so many orbs crowd and somebody's 888 00:37:47,610 --> 00:37:45,850 property before in my life she had a lot 889 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:47,620 of activity and she had this little 890 00:37:52,530 --> 00:37:50,710 stream that went along her property and 891 00:37:53,940 --> 00:37:52,540 we're walking along and she's like you 892 00:37:55,890 --> 00:37:53,950 know if we and she's talking quietly 893 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:55,900 she's like oh the the Bigfoots babies 894 00:38:00,510 --> 00:37:58,210 are over here and if we get too close 895 00:38:02,070 --> 00:38:00,520 they might throw a rock or two don't be 896 00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:02,080 nervous about it it won't here it won't 897 00:38:08,580 --> 00:38:05,200 hurt you or hit you we're like huh okay 898 00:38:10,170 --> 00:38:08,590 whatever walking along I'm the last in 899 00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:10,180 the group of people there's probably 900 00:38:17,490 --> 00:38:13,840 like seven eight of us and I'm not 901 00:38:21,210 --> 00:38:17,500 kidding you I'm walking and I had a 902 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:21,220 boulder hurled into the water next to me 903 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:22,970 I don't know where 904 00:38:28,930 --> 00:38:26,330 and I'm like what you know she is in the 905 00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:28,940 ladies just she stops you go oh gosh 906 00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:31,760 we're closed oh well we have to pick up 907 00:38:35,650 --> 00:38:33,710 the pace a little bit they're getting a 908 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:35,660 little I'm like you said pebbles that 909 00:38:40,810 --> 00:38:38,690 was a boulder hurled at me where did it 910 00:38:42,610 --> 00:38:40,820 come from it's like where does it come 911 00:38:45,460 --> 00:38:42,620 I don't know where this rock came from 912 00:38:47,770 --> 00:38:45,470 and their aim is fantastic because man 913 00:38:50,110 --> 00:38:47,780 it landed right near my myself I mean 914 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:50,120 just unbelievable but this is something 915 00:38:55,710 --> 00:38:52,850 they do to ward you off and apparently 916 00:38:59,740 --> 00:38:55,720 to help you prevent theft 917 00:39:02,380 --> 00:38:59,750 well we last year we I was taking some 918 00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:02,390 people up on Tori in the in the woods of 919 00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:06,020 Burlington and usually I take people up 920 00:39:11,980 --> 00:39:09,680 on Saturday as you know but this year or 921 00:39:13,630 --> 00:39:11,990 last year well I think it was last year 922 00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:13,640 yeah I'm pretty sure it was last year 923 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:16,790 yeah I was but anyhow I these people 924 00:39:22,450 --> 00:39:18,530 could come in and they wanted to do a 925 00:39:24,250 --> 00:39:22,460 tour on Friday okay so now Bigfoot okay 926 00:39:25,780 --> 00:39:24,260 it's doing their thing because they know 927 00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:25,790 I don't have a too far going on right 928 00:39:30,850 --> 00:39:28,460 and when we got up into the woods we 929 00:39:32,860 --> 00:39:30,860 seen them and I have never seen this but 930 00:39:35,380 --> 00:39:32,870 that particular night there was all 931 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:35,390 these Turtles out on the path they've 932 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:39,050 been laying eggs and so anyhow that was 933 00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:40,850 kind of fun you know look looking for 934 00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:43,730 turtles but we went up and did her thing 935 00:39:49,810 --> 00:39:45,110 in the woods and we were coming back 936 00:39:52,570 --> 00:39:49,820 going down this hill and all of a sudden 937 00:39:56,590 --> 00:39:52,580 I had a big I think he had been at least 938 00:39:59,020 --> 00:39:56,600 ten foot big mail comes charging off the 939 00:40:04,000 --> 00:39:59,030 top of the hill down at us got about 20 940 00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:04,010 foot from me and he was yelling and some 941 00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:06,320 like those mountain eeap's ha ha ha 942 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:09,920 Lois anyhow he is screaming at me and he 943 00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:11,450 was running down that hill he was 944 00:40:17,170 --> 00:40:14,750 breaking trees and he got about 20 foot 945 00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:17,180 from me and then just stopped and 946 00:40:24,460 --> 00:40:20,320 stepped over into this a bunch of brush 947 00:40:27,550 --> 00:40:24,470 and disappeared and I mean I couldn't 948 00:40:29,590 --> 00:40:27,560 move Heidi I could not move he could 949 00:40:34,180 --> 00:40:29,600 have came all the way knocked me over 950 00:40:36,070 --> 00:40:34,190 and III was gross I was paralyzed and so 951 00:40:36,940 --> 00:40:36,080 a bunch of the group they said well 952 00:40:39,790 --> 00:40:36,950 let's go after 953 00:40:42,670 --> 00:40:39,800 and I says what I said I'm not going 954 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:42,680 maybe we'll come on I said very honest 955 00:40:45,610 --> 00:40:44,330 key question he says yeah I said what 956 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:45,620 the hell are you gonna do it this thing 957 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:50,960 when you catch up yeah no luckily though 958 00:40:55,590 --> 00:40:53,330 he disappeared so he must have stepped 959 00:40:59,800 --> 00:40:55,600 into a dimensional portal that was there 960 00:41:01,570 --> 00:40:59,810 but but then we went up there was a 961 00:41:03,250 --> 00:41:01,580 bunch of the girls what they wanted to 962 00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:03,260 do is just hurry up get out of the woods 963 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:04,880 they didn't want to walk with us anymore 964 00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:06,890 which was understandable so they took 965 00:41:11,590 --> 00:41:09,440 off ahead of us and all of a sudden 966 00:41:14,230 --> 00:41:11,600 we're hearing screams from them and 967 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:14,240 they're running back they popov me over 968 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:16,010 to get you know to where Brad was 969 00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:19,250 standing and if there was they had run 970 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:22,310 into another small group of Bigfoot so I 971 00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:24,710 think what had happened that night was 972 00:41:29,260 --> 00:41:27,470 one they didn't know we were coming so 973 00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:29,270 and I think that they were - they were 974 00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:31,720 out there collecting those turtle eggs 975 00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:36,260 and so we got in between that group that 976 00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:38,510 pod or whatever you want to call them 977 00:41:45,220 --> 00:41:42,800 and so that male you know shaped right 978 00:41:46,450 --> 00:41:45,230 tried to chase us off you know to 979 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:46,460 protect his family 980 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:49,610 wow that's amazing you know get in the 981 00:41:54,460 --> 00:41:52,010 net yeah and then see it rained really 982 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:54,470 good that night so you know the trail 983 00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:55,850 you know was muddy 984 00:42:00,850 --> 00:41:58,610 so I told everybody says we're just 985 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:00,860 leaving now and I says tomorrow we'll 986 00:42:05,710 --> 00:42:03,440 come back so the next day we went back 987 00:42:07,750 --> 00:42:05,720 and there was a you know because I knew 988 00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:07,760 we'd be able to find you know evidence 989 00:42:13,660 --> 00:42:11,510 in the mud and so anyhow we went back 990 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:13,670 there and just as you step on to the 991 00:42:19,330 --> 00:42:16,490 into the woods on the right-hand side of 992 00:42:21,730 --> 00:42:19,340 the path there was a beautiful big 993 00:42:25,330 --> 00:42:21,740 footprint showing the five toes the pole 994 00:42:28,090 --> 00:42:25,340 it was all so I don't know I'm not there 995 00:42:31,330 --> 00:42:28,100 let's see maybe about I don't know 18 to 996 00:42:33,850 --> 00:42:31,340 20 inches long in about I don't know 10 997 00:42:36,250 --> 00:42:33,860 inches wide something like that and 998 00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:36,260 anyhow it was a perfect print now so I 999 00:42:41,140 --> 00:42:38,750 took some pictures of it then we went up 1000 00:42:44,890 --> 00:42:41,150 there were you know that Bigfoot rushed 1001 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:44,900 us and there was you could see where he 1002 00:42:48,490 --> 00:42:47,450 had he had been sitting up there you 1003 00:42:49,630 --> 00:42:48,500 know cuz there's whole bunch of leaves 1004 00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:49,640 up there in the woods 1005 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:50,720 you could see where 1006 00:42:55,570 --> 00:42:53,510 but was head set down into those leaves 1007 00:42:58,540 --> 00:42:55,580 then you could see how the leaves were 1008 00:43:01,900 --> 00:42:58,550 disturbed as he ran down that hill plus 1009 00:43:04,270 --> 00:43:01,910 there was a book and we took pictures of 1010 00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:04,280 the trees that he snapped as he was 1011 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:05,599 coming to off that hill 1012 00:43:12,339 --> 00:43:09,530 Wow why I was a close encounter but I 1013 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:12,349 never had I'd never all the years I 1014 00:43:18,099 --> 00:43:15,770 think I've I've known about Bigfoot up 1015 00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,109 there I don't know maybe six seven years 1016 00:43:22,359 --> 00:43:20,480 you know but they've out but they've 1017 00:43:24,130 --> 00:43:22,369 never ever shown themselves you know 1018 00:43:27,310 --> 00:43:24,140 they've just thrown them you know the 1019 00:43:31,180 --> 00:43:27,320 nuts or you know or stones or something 1020 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:31,190 like that I actually saw that is wild 1021 00:43:37,930 --> 00:43:34,010 you know i I've seen one once and it 1022 00:43:40,089 --> 00:43:37,940 wasn't outside I don't even know how do 1023 00:43:42,609 --> 00:43:40,099 I share did a few times on the show here 1024 00:43:44,530 --> 00:43:42,619 but I I saw it inside of somebody's home 1025 00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:44,540 I mean it's it's the craziest thing it 1026 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:46,640 looked like cousin it and and it wasn't 1027 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:49,490 that that tall it was really weird but 1028 00:43:52,690 --> 00:43:50,650 it let me know that they're definitely 1029 00:43:53,740 --> 00:43:52,700 interdimensional things and they could 1030 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:53,750 come and go as they please and 1031 00:43:59,950 --> 00:43:57,890 apparently don't always need a door but 1032 00:44:01,780 --> 00:43:59,960 I have a question for you because I've 1033 00:44:04,359 --> 00:44:01,790 heard over the years some really 1034 00:44:07,150 --> 00:44:04,369 interesting perspectives from people 1035 00:44:11,650 --> 00:44:07,160 including some Bigfoot hunters that I 1036 00:44:13,570 --> 00:44:11,660 that I work with on another show just 1037 00:44:17,020 --> 00:44:13,580 you know I've heard Bigfoot being seen 1038 00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:17,030 next to UFOs and I've even heard some 1039 00:44:27,070 --> 00:44:22,640 people attribute them to raping their 1040 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:27,080 cows I am Tony I mean really it's like 1041 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:30,650 okay they're cow molesters and I've 1042 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:33,050 heard them be called demons I mean what 1043 00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:35,450 do you think they are well have you ever 1044 00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:41,230 I think it's the earliest report a 1045 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:44,480 Bigfoot what you can find right in the 1046 00:44:49,089 --> 00:44:46,010 Epic of Gilgamesh 1047 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:49,099 the you know the Sumerian history yeah 1048 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:52,330 and they called him inky do inky do 1049 00:45:02,260 --> 00:44:56,770 uh-huh he do and he was the friend of 1050 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:02,270 the King Gilgamesh and they you know 1051 00:45:09,130 --> 00:45:04,490 they 1052 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:09,140 happened the battle was lost or 1053 00:45:14,290 --> 00:45:12,650 something and the Enki do said that they 1054 00:45:17,770 --> 00:45:14,300 were going underground and they would 1055 00:45:20,290 --> 00:45:17,780 never live among people again and I 1056 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:20,300 really do think well Enki do was 1057 00:45:26,650 --> 00:45:23,690 described as the wild hairy man of the 1058 00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:26,660 forest then he was job was to watch over 1059 00:45:34,270 --> 00:45:30,800 nature and and he was described you know 1060 00:45:36,910 --> 00:45:34,280 just how how we describe a Bigfoot today 1061 00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:36,920 you know with all that hair you know all 1062 00:45:42,490 --> 00:45:39,920 over their body and try think that I 1063 00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:42,500 think that if it's a type of a humanoid 1064 00:45:52,930 --> 00:45:49,040 that uh that they evolved right along 1065 00:45:55,870 --> 00:45:52,940 with the Adamic man and and they also 1066 00:45:59,350 --> 00:45:55,880 evolved or what the Giants because of 1067 00:46:02,350 --> 00:45:59,360 the Gilgamesh was a giant so you know I 1068 00:46:04,540 --> 00:46:02,360 think that the Yankee do or you the 1069 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:04,550 Indians call the Enkidu the first people 1070 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:07,010 and it's very very possible to be at 1071 00:46:12,370 --> 00:46:09,730 work and still are the first people 1072 00:46:14,740 --> 00:46:12,380 interesting I just found an article a 1073 00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:14,750 pretty interesting website about the 1074 00:46:17,830 --> 00:46:16,310 relationship between Gilgamesh and 1075 00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:17,840 Enkidu I'm gonna post it in the chat 1076 00:46:21,340 --> 00:46:19,609 room I'm always in a chatroom people if 1077 00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:21,350 you ever want to pop in there that's 1078 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:25,310 interesting Wow oh that's what happens 1079 00:46:30,220 --> 00:46:27,170 with do you know you do a lot of 1080 00:46:32,770 --> 00:46:30,230 research right yeah you know this stuff 1081 00:46:34,270 --> 00:46:32,780 just comes to us you know I mean like I 1082 00:46:37,420 --> 00:46:34,280 said if I'm not out in the field and 1083 00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:37,430 write books I'm researching salt yeah I 1084 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:40,310 was really glad to come up or found that 1085 00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:42,770 you know those characters of the epic of 1086 00:46:47,380 --> 00:46:45,680 gilgamesh because it is it to me and 1087 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:47,390 I've even been thinking about when I 1088 00:46:51,460 --> 00:46:49,369 write about Bigfoot because I never did 1089 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:51,470 like named Bigfoot I don't like hearing 1090 00:46:55,570 --> 00:46:53,690 man either so I think what I'm just 1091 00:46:58,510 --> 00:46:55,580 gonna start doing I've been kind of 1092 00:47:00,700 --> 00:46:58,520 tossing it around I think right now just 1093 00:47:02,650 --> 00:47:00,710 based off why I told you I think I'm 1094 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:02,660 gonna start doing is calling them dinky 1095 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:03,050 doo 1096 00:47:07,390 --> 00:47:05,330 that's a good one yeah I have a question 1097 00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:07,400 here from the chatroom from Lorraine 1098 00:47:13,780 --> 00:47:11,200 she's asking how tall do you suspect 1099 00:47:16,510 --> 00:47:13,790 Bigfoot to usually be how big was the 1100 00:47:17,930 --> 00:47:16,520 one you saw well the one I saw was about 1101 00:47:20,299 --> 00:47:17,940 ten foot 1102 00:47:23,660 --> 00:47:20,309 oh I would not go look over that mother 1103 00:47:26,990 --> 00:47:23,670 he was proportioned accordingly you know 1104 00:47:30,170 --> 00:47:27,000 he was a big boy you know you got to 1105 00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:30,180 remember that you know that they have 1106 00:47:37,279 --> 00:47:34,230 babies you know yeah what 2 foot 3 foot 1107 00:47:39,890 --> 00:47:37,289 tall and then they grow into toddlers 1108 00:47:43,099 --> 00:47:39,900 and they grow into young adulthood you 1109 00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:43,109 know so they could be maybe 12 foot but 1110 00:47:49,609 --> 00:47:46,200 you know or maybe even taller but it 1111 00:47:51,859 --> 00:47:49,619 wouldn't be that unreasonable to assume 1112 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:51,869 that you know you're also gonna see 1113 00:47:56,420 --> 00:47:54,210 Bigfoot out there there's only five foot 1114 00:48:00,380 --> 00:47:56,430 if they're you know if they're a young 1115 00:48:03,049 --> 00:48:00,390 one you know they're still growing but I 1116 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:03,059 think that the standard size would 1117 00:48:08,329 --> 00:48:04,890 probably be anywhere between 10 and 12 1118 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:08,339 foot what do you think Heidi you know I 1119 00:48:15,319 --> 00:48:10,970 I haven't the one that I saw was 1120 00:48:17,150 --> 00:48:15,329 probably five five yeah so it was a it 1121 00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:17,160 was probably a young one you know a 1122 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:19,470 teenager so yeah that have wandered into 1123 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:20,970 this lady's house she felt like her 1124 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:22,770 house was haunted was her apartment 1125 00:48:28,339 --> 00:48:26,730 actually and it's for some reason people 1126 00:48:29,779 --> 00:48:28,349 think if you're involved in this stuff 1127 00:48:32,089 --> 00:48:29,789 that you're automatically psychic I'm 1128 00:48:33,980 --> 00:48:32,099 not maybe a little sensitive to seeing 1129 00:48:38,299 --> 00:48:33,990 and feeling stuff but I don't I don't 1130 00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:38,309 use it to help in that sense but I'm 1131 00:48:41,329 --> 00:48:40,079 sorry she invited me to go over or hang 1132 00:48:42,740 --> 00:48:41,339 out at her place and I'm sitting there 1133 00:48:45,380 --> 00:48:42,750 hanging with one of my friends and we 1134 00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:45,390 both saw this thing manifest in her 1135 00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:48,900 kitchen I jumped up screaming Bigfoot my 1136 00:48:53,690 --> 00:48:50,250 friend jumped up at the same time 1137 00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:53,700 screaming werewolf and it just shimmied 1138 00:48:57,710 --> 00:48:55,440 out of right before our eyes just 1139 00:49:01,760 --> 00:48:57,720 shimmied out of our sight I'm like what 1140 00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:01,770 there's a Bigfoot loosen your apartment 1141 00:49:06,289 --> 00:49:03,630 and maybe the little guy got away from 1142 00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:06,299 mom and dad's watchful gaze or something 1143 00:49:13,220 --> 00:49:09,000 I don't know it was weird yeah I know 1144 00:49:15,769 --> 00:49:13,230 dumb when I lived in Burlington before I 1145 00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:15,779 had a site by cafe I had that other 1146 00:49:21,049 --> 00:49:17,700 little building across the street do you 1147 00:49:23,450 --> 00:49:21,059 remember that yeah so anyhow I'm down 1148 00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:23,460 there and I'm doing some research in my 1149 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:26,400 office and this woman calls me she was 1150 00:49:31,850 --> 00:49:28,970 some sort of a psychic from Canada a 1151 00:49:34,670 --> 00:49:31,860 healer and she's close 1152 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:34,680 Mindi goal and so anyhow she called me 1153 00:49:38,450 --> 00:49:36,720 and she says Mary she says I feel that 1154 00:49:40,190 --> 00:49:38,460 you're out of balaam she says would you 1155 00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:40,200 mind if I worked on you on the table and 1156 00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:44,400 I says no go for it so anyhow here I'm 1157 00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:47,250 standing with the telephone and she's 1158 00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:49,440 having me go that through the ohms in 1159 00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:52,800 the ohms and you know and adjusting 1160 00:49:57,230 --> 00:49:55,110 myself you know doing some yoga type you 1161 00:49:59,630 --> 00:49:57,240 know stances and things like that and 1162 00:50:03,800 --> 00:49:59,640 the next thing I know I look up and 1163 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:03,810 there's this great alien about five what 1164 00:50:12,170 --> 00:50:07,290 for and I'm he totally physical standing 1165 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:12,180 uh vote oh I don't know about 20 maybe 1166 00:50:17,810 --> 00:50:15,330 you know about 20 foot from me he seemed 1167 00:50:19,340 --> 00:50:17,820 like he was standing in like a circle 1168 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:19,350 because I notice that he kept his feet 1169 00:50:25,250 --> 00:50:22,410 very still you know and you know not to 1170 00:50:27,170 --> 00:50:25,260 step out of that circle but his body you 1171 00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:27,180 know he twisted and he turned it and he 1172 00:50:31,130 --> 00:50:29,700 was looking at me because he couldn't 1173 00:50:33,590 --> 00:50:31,140 share what was being said on the other 1174 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:33,600 side you know on the on the other side 1175 00:50:36,770 --> 00:50:34,290 of the phone 1176 00:50:40,190 --> 00:50:36,780 the other conversation all I could see 1177 00:50:42,770 --> 00:50:40,200 was me standing there you know gyrating 1178 00:50:45,340 --> 00:50:42,780 you know and he and it was he was so 1179 00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:45,350 curious I think what he did is he 1180 00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:48,960 dropped his attention you know because I 1181 00:50:53,630 --> 00:50:50,760 think what they do is they create like a 1182 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:53,640 cloud of invisibility and they do this 1183 00:51:00,170 --> 00:50:58,050 by using their mind you know and as long 1184 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:00,180 as they could stay focused they can keep 1185 00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:02,970 this cloud of invisibility up but you 1186 00:51:07,220 --> 00:51:06,000 see when he see me doing this cuz 1187 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:07,230 apparently he had been in there 1188 00:51:12,740 --> 00:51:09,690 observing me and but when he seen me 1189 00:51:14,090 --> 00:51:12,750 doing all this crazy motions and all you 1190 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:14,100 know I'm the omens in the ohms 1191 00:51:21,110 --> 00:51:17,610 he got so curious he dropped his focus 1192 00:51:24,410 --> 00:51:21,120 on keeping up that shield it dropped and 1193 00:51:26,180 --> 00:51:24,420 there he stood so I said to the woman I 1194 00:51:29,210 --> 00:51:26,190 said you not gonna believe this but I 1195 00:51:30,140 --> 00:51:29,220 says I got an alien standing looking at 1196 00:51:32,180 --> 00:51:30,150 right now 1197 00:51:33,890 --> 00:51:32,190 she's wild you owe me send it to the 1198 00:51:35,750 --> 00:51:33,900 other realm or something because I think 1199 00:51:39,290 --> 00:51:35,760 she probably didn't even believe me tell 1200 00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:39,300 you true but I says no I says he's fine 1201 00:51:45,470 --> 00:51:42,690 and the thing was about it Heidi is 1202 00:51:47,180 --> 00:51:45,480 usually you know we're talking about 1203 00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:47,190 three o'clock in the morning here and 1204 00:51:51,470 --> 00:51:48,510 I'm down there by myself 1205 00:51:53,780 --> 00:51:51,480 and this alien standing there you know 1206 00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:53,790 and usually I would have flipped out 1207 00:52:01,099 --> 00:51:58,140 over this you know but for some reason 1208 00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:01,109 my camera I just felt that he was just 1209 00:52:06,290 --> 00:52:04,140 the cutest little guy I ever seen yeah I 1210 00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:06,300 don't care whatsoever well but we gonna 1211 00:52:11,090 --> 00:52:08,310 get to our next break here but I'd hate 1212 00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:11,100 to cut you off but I think it would my 1213 00:52:16,190 --> 00:52:13,980 bladder right there but I just see this 1214 00:52:18,770 --> 00:52:16,200 masseuse you realize I saw him just in a 1215 00:52:20,359 --> 00:52:18,780 blink of an eye he was gone amazing and 1216 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:20,369 my bladder would have dropped still so 1217 00:52:23,780 --> 00:52:22,290 you guys are listed to me anyhow the 1218 00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:23,790 Outlander and inception radio night 1219 00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:26,310 network and we'll be right back welcome 1220 00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:27,990 back everybody you're listening to me 1221 00:52:31,220 --> 00:52:28,710 Heidi house 1222 00:52:33,859 --> 00:52:31,230 the Outlander remember always it's weird 1223 00:52:35,330 --> 00:52:33,869 we're here and so are you it's all good 1224 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:35,340 we're getting you advice an insight on 1225 00:52:40,070 --> 00:52:37,290 outlandish topics phone lines are always 1226 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:40,080 open one eighty eight nine two three 1227 00:52:44,060 --> 00:52:42,330 five five but I know that most do you 1228 00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:44,070 listen to this show through the app so 1229 00:52:48,890 --> 00:52:45,510 it's all good 1230 00:52:51,140 --> 00:52:48,900 and that's fine and dandy um I want to 1231 00:52:55,450 --> 00:52:51,150 let you guys know that I am helping out 1232 00:52:59,330 --> 00:52:55,460 a new TV show to try to help address 1233 00:53:01,070 --> 00:52:59,340 these lovely sleep paralysis episodes a 1234 00:53:02,570 --> 00:53:01,080 lot of people are experiencing and you 1235 00:53:05,570 --> 00:53:02,580 know me I've been working on this for a 1236 00:53:09,140 --> 00:53:05,580 long time so feel free to write me at 1237 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:09,150 dusts Diaz and David des Outlander at 1238 00:53:14,780 --> 00:53:12,330 gmail.com and send your stories on in so 1239 00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:14,790 hopefully we'll get some help out to you 1240 00:53:20,090 --> 00:53:17,369 and get to address this stuff I mean it 1241 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:20,100 needs to be put out there so I get back 1242 00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:21,690 to my awesome guest this evening I have 1243 00:53:26,930 --> 00:53:24,240 Mary Sutherland and we're just chatting 1244 00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:26,940 it up because we're like friends and we 1245 00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:29,220 haven't spoken about and so we're doing 1246 00:53:36,859 --> 00:53:35,430 that now hanging out sorry you guys 1247 00:53:38,540 --> 00:53:36,869 gotta listen to all this carrying on 1248 00:53:41,060 --> 00:53:38,550 just kidding we're having a blast we 1249 00:53:42,740 --> 00:53:41,070 love this stuff I mean Mary I always 1250 00:53:45,050 --> 00:53:42,750 tell people if I could do this in my 1251 00:53:52,580 --> 00:53:45,060 sleep I would I probably do for all I 1252 00:53:54,380 --> 00:53:52,590 know you know some days you wake up and 1253 00:53:56,570 --> 00:53:54,390 you're just so exhausted 1254 00:53:58,580 --> 00:53:56,580 you shouldn't be exhausted after eight 1255 00:54:00,500 --> 00:53:58,590 hours sleep those are the 1256 00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,510 I know I've been working honestly I'm 1257 00:54:04,970 --> 00:54:02,640 honestly through my sleep and it's a 1258 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:04,980 strange thing to say but you know 1259 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:07,650 there's another process that's going on 1260 00:54:13,130 --> 00:54:10,770 sometimes and yeah it happens and it's 1261 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:13,140 just it's very interesting when it does 1262 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:15,330 but so I have some questions for you 1263 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:18,090 because you you cover so many topics and 1264 00:54:24,530 --> 00:54:20,730 I have to say I've always wanted to do a 1265 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:24,540 book or research on giants I think the 1266 00:54:30,050 --> 00:54:28,050 topic is so fascinating because there be 1267 00:54:31,310 --> 00:54:30,060 giants in them there hills I mean this 1268 00:54:33,740 --> 00:54:31,320 stuff has been they've been around 1269 00:54:35,870 --> 00:54:33,750 they've been documented I mean this is 1270 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:35,880 just a fact of nature and the rows of 1271 00:54:40,070 --> 00:54:38,130 teeth that some of them have and I mean 1272 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:40,080 there's there's bones that are that are 1273 00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,570 hidden in the Smithsonian of giants that 1274 00:54:46,610 --> 00:54:44,400 have been recovered and you know it's 1275 00:54:49,430 --> 00:54:46,620 it's just crazy so I want to hear about 1276 00:54:52,910 --> 00:54:49,440 the red hair giants the the work that 1277 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:52,920 you've done so passionately well I 1278 00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:55,890 remember when well it's like with you in 1279 00:55:01,100 --> 00:54:58,530 the shadow people you know well is it 12 1280 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:01,110 years ago I'm talking about red haired 1281 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:04,410 races the red-haired race of giants and 1282 00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:06,330 all the researchers are rolling their 1283 00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:08,880 eyes saying Mary's gone nuts you know I 1284 00:55:14,180 --> 00:55:11,700 mean how dare her even bring up the idea 1285 00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:14,190 that there's such a race you know and 1286 00:55:19,670 --> 00:55:16,710 and you know I stuck to my guns because 1287 00:55:21,110 --> 00:55:19,680 I really believed in it and that's 1288 00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:21,120 something you research has got to 1289 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:22,680 realize if you really believe in 1290 00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:24,330 something you got the passion for it 1291 00:55:29,180 --> 00:55:25,920 doesn't make any difference what anybody 1292 00:55:32,270 --> 00:55:29,190 else has to say go for it right I did it 1293 00:55:34,790 --> 00:55:32,280 Heidi did it and you know and now you 1294 00:55:36,670 --> 00:55:34,800 type in red-haired race or red-haired 1295 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:36,680 Giants and you have over a million 1296 00:55:42,620 --> 00:55:40,170 millions of websites you know mentioning 1297 00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:42,630 the red-haired Giants and now we have 1298 00:55:49,460 --> 00:55:45,300 other authors out there writing about it 1299 00:55:52,310 --> 00:55:49,470 I think on earthing what is that called 1300 00:55:56,690 --> 00:55:52,320 unearthing America I think he's done 1301 00:56:00,140 --> 00:55:56,700 something on on the Giants as well but 1302 00:56:02,270 --> 00:56:00,150 I'm but most of what you're seeing you 1303 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:02,280 know in other books is there still and 1304 00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:06,810 approve out Giants and on my book I 1305 00:56:12,410 --> 00:56:09,240 proved out the Giants but I took it 1306 00:56:14,930 --> 00:56:12,420 further because I wanted people to 1307 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:14,940 know who they were what their traditions 1308 00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:17,850 were how did the how did they come to be 1309 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:23,520 here in North America how why the hows 1310 00:56:30,620 --> 00:56:28,170 and whys of their extermination tel and 1311 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:30,630 then showing that these people how they 1312 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:33,330 you know they started downsizing in size 1313 00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:36,570 and and they became the the Toltecs that 1314 00:56:39,980 --> 00:56:37,200 we know of 1315 00:56:43,820 --> 00:56:39,990 they were the precursors of the the 1316 00:56:46,610 --> 00:56:43,830 Aztec and the Mayans you know and so 1317 00:56:50,810 --> 00:56:46,620 basically this is what I wanted to do is 1318 00:56:54,860 --> 00:56:50,820 let the people I know the evidence is 1319 00:56:58,460 --> 00:56:54,870 there to prove they exist but my job is 1320 00:57:01,520 --> 00:56:58,470 now to teach people who these people 1321 00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:01,530 were you know there were some good guys 1322 00:57:07,070 --> 00:57:04,500 and there was some bad guys and even in 1323 00:57:10,030 --> 00:57:07,080 my book I showed that even Noah was a 1324 00:57:13,550 --> 00:57:10,040 giant people and that during that time 1325 00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:13,560 era of a different size the earth would 1326 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:15,720 look very very different than it looks 1327 00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:20,610 today you know and I through geology 1328 00:57:27,470 --> 00:57:23,310 reports I was able to show that after 1329 00:57:30,650 --> 00:57:27,480 the flood that the first dry land 1330 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:30,660 according to geology reports the first 1331 00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:33,210 trial and when Europe was underwater and 1332 00:57:37,490 --> 00:57:35,040 all the rest of Earth was in underwater 1333 00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:37,500 the first dry land was right here in 1334 00:57:45,410 --> 00:57:41,160 North America you know so if this is the 1335 00:57:48,380 --> 00:57:45,420 first dry land the the nude the the the 1336 00:57:51,470 --> 00:57:48,390 people you know that came to be that we 1337 00:57:54,020 --> 00:57:51,480 know now or you know slightly in the 1338 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:54,030 past they had to have started right here 1339 00:58:00,170 --> 00:57:57,410 in North America been migrated outwards 1340 00:58:03,650 --> 00:58:00,180 everybody else is saying migration came 1341 00:58:06,860 --> 00:58:03,660 from outside the North America then came 1342 00:58:11,090 --> 00:58:06,870 here to North America and in my book I 1343 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:11,100 give scientific data of the truth that 1344 00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:13,770 there is more than enough reports out 1345 00:58:18,980 --> 00:58:16,020 there geology reports anthropology 1346 00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:18,990 reports you name it it bets show that 1347 00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,630 these people these jut the home of the 1348 00:58:25,870 --> 00:58:23,520 Giants was right here in North America 1349 00:58:28,270 --> 00:58:25,880 you know so amazing it 1350 00:58:30,970 --> 00:58:28,280 it's been an interesting voyage for me 1351 00:58:33,460 --> 00:58:30,980 trying to prove out this because you 1352 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:33,470 know I'm I'm going against what 1353 00:58:37,450 --> 00:58:36,170 everybody else is saying you know that's 1354 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:37,460 why you gotta be like you said you 1355 00:58:40,090 --> 00:58:38,330 believe in that game 1356 00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:40,100 you know you roll with it the evidence 1357 00:58:45,370 --> 00:58:42,160 is there though I did not know that 1358 00:58:47,530 --> 00:58:45,380 about Noah but my goodness how did this 1359 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:47,540 man hurt these animals I maybe he just 1360 00:58:57,220 --> 00:58:52,610 grabbed him Russell demand it was I'm 1361 00:59:00,610 --> 00:58:57,230 thinking it was DNA because if you go 1362 00:59:03,430 --> 00:59:00,620 back into the you know ancient Egypt 1363 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:03,440 you'll find inscriptions on their walls 1364 00:59:12,430 --> 00:59:07,130 you know in their temples of helicopters 1365 00:59:15,310 --> 00:59:12,440 fighter planes submarines you know they 1366 00:59:17,110 --> 00:59:15,320 had technology in those days and even in 1367 00:59:19,810 --> 00:59:17,120 my book thread here Giants I talked 1368 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:19,820 about the Vimanas the flying machines of 1369 00:59:26,110 --> 00:59:23,450 the Giants you know of you know that 1370 00:59:29,710 --> 00:59:26,120 there the mahabharata talks about you 1371 00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:29,720 know the ancient vedic texts but it's 1372 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:33,310 you know so we know even in cording to 1373 00:59:39,250 --> 00:59:36,050 ancient egypt that they're they were 1374 00:59:42,970 --> 00:59:39,260 already doing things that were just now 1375 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:42,980 discovering so you know i'm pretty sure 1376 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:47,570 that they had they understood DNA and I 1377 00:59:53,350 --> 00:59:50,330 think that the animals in pairs were 1378 00:59:56,140 --> 00:59:53,360 actually sent the DNA samples of all 1379 00:59:58,300 --> 00:59:56,150 these different animals and birds that's 1380 01:00:01,540 --> 00:59:58,310 a lot easier to take in a boat that's 1381 01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:01,550 for sure yeah a little swab you're there 1382 01:00:06,130 --> 01:00:03,920 and you know I've heard that number 1383 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:06,140 I can't remember where it is now Heidi 1384 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:08,690 but I know that our government or maybe 1385 01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:10,490 it's even the governments of the world I 1386 01:00:14,110 --> 01:00:12,110 think it's up and I don't know 1387 01:00:17,380 --> 01:00:14,120 Antarctica or some darn place like that 1388 01:00:21,460 --> 01:00:17,390 but they have a facility that they're 1389 01:00:23,950 --> 01:00:21,470 already collecting DNA samples and know 1390 01:00:25,660 --> 01:00:23,960 that they've got an ark of a sort yes 1391 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:25,670 yeah they've out they've been doing this 1392 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:28,130 for years you know another thing that 1393 01:00:32,170 --> 01:00:29,090 I've heard though from a lot of 1394 01:00:34,030 --> 01:00:32,180 experiences of the alien sort of the 1395 01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:34,040 more positive alien beings that you know 1396 01:00:37,780 --> 01:00:36,110 people think everything is abductions 1397 01:00:39,849 --> 01:00:37,790 but there are some good guys out there 1398 01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:39,859 that go around 1399 01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:42,529 collecting the DNA and different samples 1400 01:00:46,779 --> 01:00:44,480 of different plant life and whatnot and 1401 01:00:49,479 --> 01:00:46,789 and they pass along the message to those 1402 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:49,489 that spot them out that well you know 1403 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:51,410 your earth is going to be destroyed some 1404 01:00:54,700 --> 01:00:52,730 point and we're trying to you know 1405 01:00:56,890 --> 01:00:54,710 collect things so there it doesn't 1406 01:00:59,289 --> 01:00:56,900 become extinct essentially so like 1407 01:01:01,299 --> 01:00:59,299 there's an arc of a sort from an alien 1408 01:01:04,900 --> 01:01:01,309 perspective so so yeah that's 1409 01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:04,910 fascinating yeah I it makes sense 1410 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:07,369 doesn't it Heidi it does because we're 1411 01:01:12,849 --> 01:01:10,730 sure doing a heck next job of keeping 1412 01:01:13,979 --> 01:01:12,859 things together here on this planet we 1413 01:01:20,130 --> 01:01:13,989 need a little help 1414 01:01:22,870 --> 01:01:20,140 well I I don't like saying we you know 1415 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:22,880 there's this out there's a source 1416 01:01:29,529 --> 01:01:25,970 outside of us you know the I call the 1417 01:01:32,470 --> 01:01:29,539 controllers you know they like they work 1418 01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:32,480 for somebody I you know that is in the 1419 01:01:37,180 --> 01:01:34,640 shadows whether it be the reptilians or 1420 01:01:40,989 --> 01:01:37,190 not I don't know but they're working for 1421 01:01:43,690 --> 01:01:40,999 some higher power as not of God do you 1422 01:01:45,940 --> 01:01:43,700 know what I attribute in my book the 1423 01:01:48,489 --> 01:01:45,950 secret war as the shadow people doing 1424 01:01:51,069 --> 01:01:48,499 because I mean who would be hell-bent on 1425 01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:51,079 destroying themselves on purpose it's 1426 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:53,599 not us it is a negative influence and 1427 01:01:56,710 --> 01:01:54,890 it's a strange thing to say the devil 1428 01:01:58,509 --> 01:01:56,720 made me do it but you know what 1429 01:02:01,420 --> 01:01:58,519 sometimes there's a little something to 1430 01:02:03,249 --> 01:02:01,430 that but there is there's something 1431 01:02:06,249 --> 01:02:03,259 pulling people's strings why they choose 1432 01:02:08,170 --> 01:02:06,259 a instead of B yeah I totally believe 1433 01:02:11,499 --> 01:02:08,180 that our consciousness right at this 1434 01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:11,509 point of time is being taken over by an 1435 01:02:18,339 --> 01:02:14,569 outside source what that outside source 1436 01:02:20,859 --> 01:02:18,349 is alien or not I don't know these 1437 01:02:23,849 --> 01:02:20,869 reptilians may not be alien they could 1438 01:02:27,220 --> 01:02:23,859 be earth born you know just like the 1439 01:02:29,890 --> 01:02:27,230 just like the let's call the Enkidu or 1440 01:02:33,069 --> 01:02:29,900 the Bigfoot you know they could be a 1441 01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:33,079 species that evolved from the reptiles 1442 01:02:39,249 --> 01:02:35,839 you know during the days of dinosaur you 1443 01:02:41,380 --> 01:02:39,259 know you know we're discovering all 1444 01:02:44,229 --> 01:02:41,390 these different Hammad's you know I mean 1445 01:02:48,039 --> 01:02:44,239 look at your merpeople you know I mean 1446 01:02:51,579 --> 01:02:48,049 so it could be some sort of book I'm 1447 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:51,589 thinking it's a what whatever it is it's 1448 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:53,770 cold blooded 1449 01:02:57,810 --> 01:02:55,810 yeah oh and yeah just why there's been 1450 01:02:59,760 --> 01:02:57,820 governments around the world trying to 1451 01:03:04,260 --> 01:02:59,770 destroy the rainforests and things like 1452 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:04,270 that to build up heat you know because 1453 01:03:11,970 --> 01:03:08,410 you know and decrease oxygen because 1454 01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:11,980 they're preparing for another type of a 1455 01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:15,280 species that that the oxygen or the 1456 01:03:21,150 --> 01:03:17,920 environment here on earth would be more 1457 01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:21,160 adaptable to them not for us but for 1458 01:03:28,620 --> 01:03:25,480 them exactly exactly you know it oh my 1459 01:03:30,510 --> 01:03:28,630 gosh the strings run deep let's put it 1460 01:03:32,550 --> 01:03:30,520 that way you know I wanted to get on to 1461 01:03:34,410 --> 01:03:32,560 you you were involved in so many 1462 01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:34,420 different things and something that is 1463 01:03:40,380 --> 01:03:36,910 truly fascinating that right there in 1464 01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:40,390 the heartland Rock Lake and Wisconsin 1465 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:43,330 I mean tell us a little bit about Rock 1466 01:03:46,770 --> 01:03:44,890 Lake and what's going on there because a 1467 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:46,780 lot of people are not very familiar with 1468 01:03:53,970 --> 01:03:51,130 this little finding the geologists that 1469 01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:53,980 hit bomb pit well we were out there one 1470 01:04:00,450 --> 01:03:58,330 time and this guy who works for the DNR 1471 01:04:02,940 --> 01:04:00,460 he comes out because we're not a pontoon 1472 01:04:05,370 --> 01:04:02,950 right in anyhow he comes out with one of 1473 01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:05,380 those little ski boats or whatever and 1474 01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:08,110 wasn't know what we're doing and trying 1475 01:04:12,210 --> 01:04:09,520 to find an excuse to give us a few 1476 01:04:13,770 --> 01:04:12,220 tickets right and so anyhow we told them 1477 01:04:17,670 --> 01:04:13,780 that we're looking for underwater 1478 01:04:19,980 --> 01:04:17,680 structures and now if people watch 1479 01:04:22,290 --> 01:04:19,990 documentaries on TV they're still 1480 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:22,300 arguing over the point of one pyramid 1481 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:25,690 but this guy he says let me show you 1482 01:04:30,330 --> 01:04:27,970 something so he goes back to shore 1483 01:04:32,670 --> 01:04:30,340 gets in his car comes back out and guilt 1484 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:32,680 shows us this map to DNR had put 1485 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:35,290 together and he says we have discovered 1486 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:39,130 over 1,100 structures and he showed us 1487 01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:41,050 the map and pointed to them he says 1488 01:04:46,770 --> 01:04:43,000 there's there's you can look here here 1489 01:04:48,780 --> 01:04:46,780 here here here there and so we want a I 1490 01:04:50,370 --> 01:04:48,790 asked nice as well is there a chance we 1491 01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:50,380 could have a copy of it of course I got 1492 01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:52,240 back a snicker and say no this is for 1493 01:04:57,930 --> 01:04:54,850 our eyes only but he says this is what 1494 01:05:00,090 --> 01:04:57,940 you got and so he had suggested you know 1495 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:00,100 that we go to this one spot you know and 1496 01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:02,170 go and take take a look but we decided 1497 01:05:05,830 --> 01:05:04,000 since he pointed one direction we're 1498 01:05:08,230 --> 01:05:05,840 gonna go another direction 1499 01:05:09,490 --> 01:05:08,240 and of course we had our scuba diving 1500 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:09,500 equipment and everything but we were 1501 01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:12,170 just about out of oxygen because we've 1502 01:05:17,470 --> 01:05:14,960 been out there for some time and so 1503 01:05:20,980 --> 01:05:17,480 anyhow we got but we had an underwater 1504 01:05:23,380 --> 01:05:20,990 cameras at the end of the day and we had 1505 01:05:25,390 --> 01:05:23,390 this underwater camera and we're kind of 1506 01:05:27,930 --> 01:05:25,400 just sitting back watching the you know 1507 01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:27,940 what you know watching the monitor and 1508 01:05:35,710 --> 01:05:31,910 the camera gets up against something and 1509 01:05:37,570 --> 01:05:35,720 we look at it and bounced off hit it 1510 01:05:39,940 --> 01:05:37,580 again and we pulled back the camera a 1511 01:05:43,770 --> 01:05:39,950 little bit so we get a full view it was 1512 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:43,780 Heidi I kid you not it was a black 1513 01:05:53,410 --> 01:05:49,130 obsidian type pyramid and the capstone 1514 01:05:54,910 --> 01:05:53,420 had gold engraving on it and I know I 1515 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:54,920 have been something like obsidian 1516 01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:57,770 because it there was no algae growing on 1517 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:01,280 it it was like glass oh my gosh give me 1518 01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:03,170 one second MJ are you seeing this that 1519 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:04,640 they're having issues and hearing this 1520 01:06:13,329 --> 01:06:10,490 show he's gonna fix it I hope I think I 1521 01:06:14,589 --> 01:06:13,339 can turn my uh oh no you're fine no 1522 01:06:18,010 --> 01:06:14,599 there's there's something else that's 1523 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:18,020 going on so let's see if we can get oh I 1524 01:06:22,839 --> 01:06:19,450 know what it is 1525 01:06:26,650 --> 01:06:22,849 remind me no no oh no you're fine 1526 01:06:28,030 --> 01:06:26,660 no you're fine no it's not I can mute no 1527 01:06:32,620 --> 01:06:28,040 you're good you're good 1528 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:32,630 give me two seconds but I had my mic on 1529 01:06:35,980 --> 01:06:34,970 mute and I don't know how long no no I 1530 01:06:38,650 --> 01:06:35,990 could hear you just fine 1531 01:06:40,599 --> 01:06:38,660 I know but could they yes they can hear 1532 01:06:42,670 --> 01:06:40,609 you just fine yeah no it's nothing on 1533 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:42,680 your end at all or just trying to fix up 1534 01:06:48,089 --> 01:06:45,410 something here alright so um no it's 1535 01:06:50,770 --> 01:06:48,099 it's it's really really interesting oh 1536 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:50,780 let me tell you the whole story so okay 1537 01:06:54,220 --> 01:06:52,970 he found this underwater pyramid and 1538 01:06:57,190 --> 01:06:54,230 they know that it had been something 1539 01:06:59,320 --> 01:06:57,200 like glass because or had been something 1540 01:07:03,040 --> 01:06:59,330 like obsidian because algae wasn't even 1541 01:07:04,990 --> 01:07:03,050 growing on it and anyhow we took 1542 01:07:07,390 --> 01:07:05,000 pictures of it there was about oh I 1543 01:07:10,990 --> 01:07:07,400 don't know maybe eight nine of us that 1544 01:07:13,089 --> 01:07:11,000 saw this right and so anyhow we took it 1545 01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:13,099 or you know we took pictures for two 1546 01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:15,710 located because we didn't have any at 1547 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:17,119 the time we were just about out of 1548 01:07:22,300 --> 01:07:19,530 oxygen and everything so we couldn't guy 1549 01:07:25,100 --> 01:07:22,310 anymore but we went back we've been 1550 01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:25,110 working at documenting all this stuff 1551 01:07:29,180 --> 01:07:26,880 for the last five years no cuz this have 1552 01:07:33,230 --> 01:07:29,190 about five or six years at all oh but 1553 01:07:35,930 --> 01:07:33,240 anyhow get this I put something out on 1554 01:07:40,700 --> 01:07:35,940 the internet about it get a call from 1555 01:07:43,250 --> 01:07:40,710 this Mayan elder and she tells me 1556 01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:43,260 because now remember the Mayans supposed 1557 01:07:46,370 --> 01:07:44,730 to be done in Central America South 1558 01:07:49,790 --> 01:07:46,380 America that's where their homeland was 1559 01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:49,800 right so anyhow she calls me off because 1560 01:07:55,970 --> 01:07:53,310 the Mayan is the matriarchal so anyhow 1561 01:07:58,370 --> 01:07:55,980 the the Elder was a woman she calls me 1562 01:07:59,930 --> 01:07:58,380 up and she tells me she says were you 1563 01:08:03,140 --> 01:07:59,940 the one that found that black pyramid 1564 01:08:05,450 --> 01:08:03,150 over by Rock Lake missus yeah and she 1565 01:08:07,430 --> 01:08:05,460 says well you know and she says yeah I 1566 01:08:10,450 --> 01:08:07,440 want to tell you a story about that 1567 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:10,460 because she says only us Mayan elders 1568 01:08:18,440 --> 01:08:15,210 know this prophecy and she says when we 1569 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:18,450 saw what you had found we knew that the 1570 01:08:24,770 --> 01:08:21,690 prophecy had been fulfilled and she said 1571 01:08:27,620 --> 01:08:24,780 that there was a very secret prophecy 1572 01:08:30,829 --> 01:08:27,630 that the you know the the changing of 1573 01:08:33,890 --> 01:08:30,839 the time would begin when the black 1574 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:33,900 pyramid of their homeland was found oh 1575 01:08:47,630 --> 01:08:45,330 my yeah Wow yeah so they wanted me to go 1576 01:08:50,809 --> 01:08:47,640 down so they all joined you that they 1577 01:08:53,870 --> 01:08:50,819 came from all over the nation at a 1578 01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:53,880 specific time and then they went down to 1579 01:09:00,170 --> 01:08:56,970 Rock Lake to do ceremony you know in 1580 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:00,180 honor of the prophecy but of course at 1581 01:09:03,559 --> 01:09:01,410 that point the time cuz they they 1582 01:09:05,980 --> 01:09:03,569 invited me there they were they they 1583 01:09:08,930 --> 01:09:05,990 said that you know give me the honor of 1584 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:08,940 initiating me into the elders but of 1585 01:09:13,849 --> 01:09:11,730 course I had the cafe change chained to 1586 01:09:15,710 --> 01:09:13,859 that cafe and there's just there's no 1587 01:09:18,440 --> 01:09:15,720 way I could make it and just kind of 1588 01:09:21,770 --> 01:09:18,450 hurt you know ya know I couldn't you 1589 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:21,780 know I I totally understand how that you 1590 01:09:25,730 --> 01:09:23,970 know you feel obligated and that you 1591 01:09:27,710 --> 01:09:25,740 need to you know hold things together 1592 01:09:31,010 --> 01:09:27,720 you can't just abandon it I mean it and 1593 01:09:33,050 --> 01:09:31,020 it was really quite a kind of an anchor 1594 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:33,060 for the area a lot of people knew 1595 01:09:37,430 --> 01:09:34,770 if you wanted to learn about something 1596 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:37,440 out of the ordinary or spiritual go 1597 01:09:42,950 --> 01:09:40,010 there I mean you really put a mark and 1598 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:42,960 Burlington Wisconsin I mean people knew 1599 01:09:52,490 --> 01:09:47,730 this is where you go yeah what a legacy 1600 01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:52,500 to have you know well I think you know I 1601 01:09:57,470 --> 01:09:54,960 think that we've both done our blood 1602 01:10:01,250 --> 01:09:57,480 sweat and tears you know it hasn't been 1603 01:10:05,330 --> 01:10:01,260 an easy trip or you know for myself you 1604 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:05,340 know and you know we both are we we're 1605 01:10:10,070 --> 01:10:08,250 pioneers you know we're out there before 1606 01:10:13,940 --> 01:10:10,080 the Internet we just went with our gut 1607 01:10:17,330 --> 01:10:13,950 you know and learning how to see you 1608 01:10:20,030 --> 01:10:17,340 know and listen and you know and it's 1609 01:10:22,940 --> 01:10:20,040 it's not a solo thing that you can do 1610 01:10:25,580 --> 01:10:22,950 it's like I got the strength of so many 1611 01:10:28,610 --> 01:10:25,590 people behind me the the I you know I 1612 01:10:31,820 --> 01:10:28,620 wanted to mention tonight that there's a 1613 01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:31,830 group called the light side and what my 1614 01:10:38,330 --> 01:10:34,110 dear friends from the group passed away 1615 01:10:41,540 --> 01:10:38,340 sadly July 3rd Sandi Hansen and you know 1616 01:10:46,010 --> 01:10:41,550 she along with another good friend Russ 1617 01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:46,020 and Bonnie and and Kathy and Diane and I 1618 01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:50,280 mean so many people that that that 1619 01:10:55,610 --> 01:10:53,040 helped me do what it is that I'm doing 1620 01:10:59,380 --> 01:10:55,620 now that that drove with me across the 1621 01:11:01,280 --> 01:10:59,390 country in a packed van hopping into 1622 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:01,290 conferences you know these conferences 1623 01:11:05,690 --> 01:11:03,330 don't pay for you to go you pay your way 1624 01:11:08,570 --> 01:11:05,700 to go and you're going to in hopes of 1625 01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:08,580 opening up eyes and you know I really 1626 01:11:14,090 --> 01:11:11,310 want to you know send my condolences and 1627 01:11:16,820 --> 01:11:14,100 thank-yous to my friend sandy was sadly 1628 01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:16,830 it's passed away and it's you know and 1629 01:11:20,210 --> 01:11:19,020 if we build each other up in this 1630 01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:20,220 lifetime and look what we've achieved 1631 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:23,910 everybody I mean I I honestly give kudos 1632 01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:27,330 and thanks to my dear friends I mean 1633 01:11:32,540 --> 01:11:29,760 this is this is a group effort this is a 1634 01:11:34,850 --> 01:11:32,550 group effort you know and it's it's 1635 01:11:37,370 --> 01:11:34,860 something that it's an ongoing process I 1636 01:11:39,740 --> 01:11:37,380 always fall back still on these good 1637 01:11:41,450 --> 01:11:39,750 friends of mine you know and and know 1638 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:41,460 that everything that they've told me and 1639 01:11:46,730 --> 01:11:43,410 taught me and and shown me over the 1640 01:11:48,980 --> 01:11:46,740 years and and helped pull together it 1641 01:11:52,370 --> 01:11:48,990 you know gods take a note let's put it 1642 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:52,380 that way well the light side is just 1643 01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:53,970 incredible I don't think that there's 1644 01:12:01,130 --> 01:11:57,690 any group out there that could ever you 1645 01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:01,140 know match up to their generosity their 1646 01:12:04,220 --> 01:12:02,910 support because they've done the same 1647 01:12:07,070 --> 01:12:04,230 thing for me too 1648 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:07,080 yeah and you know sandy was an 1649 01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:09,810 incredible lady you know yeah look at 1650 01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:10,020 that 1651 01:12:15,340 --> 01:12:11,760 and while all of them with the best 1652 01:12:18,020 --> 01:12:15,350 hearts oh gosh can't beat them no no 1653 01:12:20,630 --> 01:12:18,030 love so in case you guys are listening 1654 01:12:23,150 --> 01:12:20,640 we Heidi and I love you love you love 1655 01:12:26,930 --> 01:12:23,160 you love you big time other Russell's in 1656 01:12:31,730 --> 01:12:26,940 the chat room he's always there he's 1657 01:12:34,450 --> 01:12:31,740 awesome my goodness so it's a it you 1658 01:12:37,670 --> 01:12:34,460 know it's it's really been interesting a 1659 01:12:39,950 --> 01:12:37,680 serious love affair for these topics to 1660 01:12:42,530 --> 01:12:39,960 do what we're doing it and you know even 1661 01:12:45,260 --> 01:12:42,540 though it's been rough it's it's not 1662 01:12:46,910 --> 01:12:45,270 anything I would ever want to stop and 1663 01:12:48,860 --> 01:12:46,920 it's nothing I'd ever want to change I 1664 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:48,870 mean I will do this to my last breath 1665 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:51,210 because it's I know the importance of it 1666 01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:54,410 and I know that you feel the same way 1667 01:12:59,360 --> 01:12:57,810 well Linda you know I kind of well I'm 1668 01:13:02,360 --> 01:12:59,370 still doing the tour so it takes me two 1669 01:13:04,430 --> 01:13:02,370 hours to drive to Burlington two hours 1670 01:13:07,730 --> 01:13:04,440 to drive back but I faithfully go there 1671 01:13:10,190 --> 01:13:07,740 every week you know because people need 1672 01:13:12,110 --> 01:13:10,200 to know they need to understand that the 1673 01:13:15,470 --> 01:13:12,120 world is you know there's things out 1674 01:13:19,610 --> 01:13:15,480 there that's made look seem invisible 1675 01:13:26,290 --> 01:13:19,620 but it is that invisible world is packed 1676 01:13:29,570 --> 01:13:26,300 with strange entities and you know the 1677 01:13:34,490 --> 01:13:29,580 species that we don't have a clue on you 1678 01:13:39,290 --> 01:13:34,500 know plant life you know the animal life 1679 01:13:43,550 --> 01:13:39,300 bird life past present future 1680 01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:43,560 you know alternate realities I I mean is 1681 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:46,410 teeming with life that we just don't see 1682 01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:50,010 but we're getting closer and closer with 1683 01:13:56,300 --> 01:13:53,490 new technology and the determination you 1684 01:13:59,210 --> 01:13:56,310 know the light side you and myself and 1685 01:14:00,169 --> 01:13:59,220 people like Linda Godfrey and that you 1686 01:14:01,910 --> 01:14:00,179 know 1687 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:01,920 we're getting it done we're getting the 1688 01:14:08,030 --> 01:14:05,610 word out and you know I think we're 1689 01:14:10,419 --> 01:14:08,040 doing a pretty good job yeah I think 1690 01:14:12,919 --> 01:14:10,429 when you look at millions of websites 1691 01:14:13,939 --> 01:14:12,929 referring to our work we must be doing 1692 01:14:15,740 --> 01:14:13,949 something right 1693 01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:15,750 something's going on you know I want to 1694 01:14:20,450 --> 01:14:17,280 give the website to the light side at 1695 01:14:21,950 --> 01:14:20,460 the light side dot o-r-g so people check 1696 01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:21,960 it out and you know we only got a couple 1697 01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:24,000 of minutes left Mary this went so fast I 1698 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:26,159 want you to put your website out there 1699 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:27,690 the names of your books and how people 1700 01:14:31,970 --> 01:14:29,370 get ahold of you and what your next 1701 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:31,980 speaking engagements are well if you 1702 01:14:39,050 --> 01:14:35,610 want to learn about the paranormal in 1703 01:14:42,530 --> 01:14:39,060 this area I put out a book called 1704 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:42,540 haunted Burlington Wisconsin and I'm not 1705 01:14:47,090 --> 01:14:44,730 really happy with the theme or you know 1706 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:47,100 the title because it doesn't do it 1707 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:50,610 justice it limits it you know for the 1708 01:14:56,540 --> 01:14:52,770 reader to think it's just Burlington but 1709 01:15:02,140 --> 01:14:56,550 it's not it I use Burlington as my you 1710 01:15:04,820 --> 01:15:02,150 know as the the home but I go into 1711 01:15:08,870 --> 01:15:04,830 explaining the paranormal 1712 01:15:11,930 --> 01:15:08,880 you know Hawaiian happens how it happens 1713 01:15:14,959 --> 01:15:11,940 we're to tell stories of their hatman 1714 01:15:18,140 --> 01:15:14,969 and uh and I think you're even mentioned 1715 01:15:21,620 --> 01:15:18,150 in there Heidi by the way I gave you 1716 01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:21,630 credit for the Hat man yeah and so 1717 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:24,239 anyhow it's a great book 1718 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:26,489 you know haunted Burlington Wisconsin 1719 01:15:33,649 --> 01:15:29,850 and you can buy it on Amazon and then I 1720 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:33,659 finished my book read here Giants it's a 1721 01:15:38,149 --> 01:15:36,210 five book series and that's the second 1722 01:15:40,970 --> 01:15:38,159 book of it because I had so much 1723 01:15:43,790 --> 01:15:40,980 information on my research on insert in 1724 01:15:45,979 --> 01:15:43,800 search of ancient man that the only way 1725 01:15:49,220 --> 01:15:45,989 I could actually put it out was to break 1726 01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:49,230 it down into books well yeah my goodness 1727 01:15:52,130 --> 01:15:50,730 well I want to thank you so much for 1728 01:15:53,780 --> 01:15:52,140 coming on the show tonight this was a 1729 01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:53,790 lot of fun and we definitely have to do 1730 01:15:59,630 --> 01:15:57,530 it again oh I hope so 1731 01:16:02,030 --> 01:15:59,640 is this the only way I'm gonna be able 1732 01:16:03,950 --> 01:16:02,040 to make contact with you anymore I will 1733 01:16:06,919 --> 01:16:03,960 send you my phone number girlfriend it's 1734 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:06,929 all good I got you covered so cool my 1735 01:16:10,820 --> 01:16:09,330 goodness everybody this would quick you 1736 01:16:11,819 --> 01:16:10,830 know I always think you guys for tuning 1737 01:16:13,589 --> 01:16:11,829 in I remember 1738 01:16:15,299 --> 01:16:13,599 night terrors anything of the sort 1739 01:16:17,609 --> 01:16:15,309 please have people write nyet doth 1740 01:16:18,959 --> 01:16:17,619 Outlander at gmail.com remember you can 1741 01:16:20,429 --> 01:16:18,969 catch me here every Friday 9:00 p.m. 1742 01:16:21,629 --> 01:16:20,439 Eastern 8:00 p.m. central you've been 1743 01:16:23,339 --> 01:16:21,639 listening to me Heidi Hollis at the 1744 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:23,349 Outlander an inception radio network